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  1. Masbee

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    Yet if LaMarcus is quietly asking to be moved, the team is better off moving him as soon as they get an excellent offer.

    Lillard may or may not be happy if LaMarcus is traded, but regardless, he isn't going anywhere for years and can't do anything about it.

    And I question the idea that he would be nothing but angry, young players seem to love it when they have a green light to take all the shots they want and get the chance to "establish" their All-Star credentials. It is all about timing and career location. Lillard and LaMarcus are in two different spots in their careers and see things differently.
     
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  2. BLAZINGGIANTS

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    Sarcasm.
     
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    What? Why would Dwight talk about something he knows nothing about (despite the fact that's what he's done his entire career)?

    I'm going to assume he has no real connections anymore (Kahn was fired), so he is choosing to talk about a story that he has some information about. If he talks about the draft, he just makes himself look uninformed.
     
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  4. BBert

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    Considering how seemingly every narcissist and pro basketball player in America lives on twitter, does anyone think it's strange or telling that LaMarcus hasn't tweeted in response to all these trade rumors attached to his name? You know, to put his teammates' and fans' minds at ease? At least deny he's asked for a trade or wants out of Portland?

    Hmmm?? :devilwink:
     
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  5. MickZagger

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    One guy I would really want from Bulls is Jimmy Butler.

    Noah/Butler/1st works for me. Make a run at a guy like Al Jefferson and were a better team than last year.
     
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    Chicago may in fact want LaMarcus, but what would be the point for them to trade away Noah in the process? Does not compute for me, and they don't have enough to offer otherwise. Next, please.
     
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    I just really struggle to see the Bulls moving Noah for Aldridge. Not to argue better or worse. But then what's the strategy? Play like Miami, with LMA at C? He's already whined about that. They'd be paying him, Boozer and Gibson a LOT of money.
    I love Noah, personally. Have since that draft, and nothing has changed. Love the way he plays. I just struggle to see a deal there.
     
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  8. Fez Hammersticks

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    Anything with the Bulls HAVE to start with Mirotic and the CHA pick.

    As far as players, they don't have much to choose from.

    Butler? A welcome addition to the bench.

    And.....

    ....

    ....

    ....

    There's a lot of meh on that roster.
     
    Fez Hammersticks, Jun 26, 2013
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    Sam Amico, who is pretty darn reliable (‏@SamAmicoFSO) just tweeted:

     
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    Noah and Butler works for me.

    A guy like Noah instantly makes us one of the better defensive teams.
     
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    Deng would be for salary purposes (has 1yr left)....

    Mirotic - euro MVP (youngest) & 2-time rising star winner....Has a $3mil buyout with euro club, so POR could ask for max allowed $3mil in cash...

    2016 unprotected pick from CHA (likely to be pretty good)

    CHI has a 2014 pick (likely in the 20's)

    #20 pick this year

    Butler a nice young bench type player

    Maybe you could dump Freeland on them....
     
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  12. BrianFromWA

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    POR could ask for that 3M in cash, but any buyout paid over 575k comes out of Mirotic's paycheck. So you'd have to offer him a deal starting at around 2.5M a year to have him even break even in salary next year. Which dips into cap space.

    I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying that it isn't just a matter of getting cash to pay the buyout.
     
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    Potentially? Yeah sure, but both also fall under the header of unlikely to ever be close to being an elite player like LA.

    STOMP
     
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    Deng, Butler, #20 and Charlotte's 2014 pick owed to the Bulls....yuck, but it's out there
     
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    not a chance, that Char pick is highly protected until 2016
     
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  16. Charcoal Filtered

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    If Cleveland wants to trade the #1 for Deng, then yes.
     
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  17. Mediocre Man

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    Ya, I think Deng would have to be moved for something coming to Portland, as well as Mirotic being part of this deal

    If Deng is moved for a pick, say 15 because it's an average pick...literally, and Chicago trades #20 for Thomas Robinson, would a package of the below be a decent haul? I think so

    Thomas Robinson
    Nicola Mirotic
    Jimmy Butler
    #15
    Charlotte's pick (Top 10 2014, Top 8 2015 Unprotected 2016)
     
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  18. Charcoal Filtered

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    I have not seen enough of Robinson or Mirotic. If you can get Robinson for #20, you do not trade an All Star for him.
     
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  19. Boise Blazer

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    I start to feel "ok" with that but to its 100% based upon what Mirotic will be. Because otherwise you are just filling your bench
     
    Boise Blazer, Jun 27, 2013
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    I am 100% on board with waiting until some player from another team wants out or some other team get desperate to move a player they cant afford or something. Im with others that are willing to wait until it is a sure thing. I want a Paul George type player back. Young, up and coming.
     
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