2013 Official NBA Off-season Movement & Rumors (Merged threads)

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  1. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

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    good, not all that interested in Iggy
     
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  2. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I think if Portland could somehow get Allen and asik before that offer; I think so.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    If we are one of the four best teams in the west next year..... I think the chances are good he stays.

    If we are a 7th or 8th seed and get bounced in the first round? I think he leaves.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    There are no more "no trade clauses" in the new cba right?
     
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    How much extra would he get over his current deal? If its more than $40 million for two additional years I think it would be more likely than not he takes it. He’s seen Roy and Oden go down with career injuries.

    If Dwight goes to Houston that is one Texas team without cap space for years. Do you think Dallas saves their cap space for the next two years just to make a run at LaMarcus? I think Dallas either spends their money to give Dirk some help or blows it up and tanks.
     
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    They are still there just very hard to get.
     
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    Jason Quick@jwquick4 minutes ago


    The Blazers will talk with agent Aaron Goodwin later today or Tuesday about free agents Matt Barnes and Francisco Garcia
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    ugh.
     
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    Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe in the new CBA LA cant do that trade because over the cap teams can't do S&T. So basically for LA, it's Howard re-signs or he bolts, no other options.
     
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    I think only luxury teams can't. Over the cap is still okay


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    I can't believe I'm about to say this, but if Kaman and Zaza are our best options...

    I hope Dwight resigns with LA and amnesty Pau.
     
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    I read somewhere teams over the cap and/or luxury tax can do S&T's, but the receiving team has to receive have so much cap room and that somehow plays into the difference of incoming/outgoing salaries. But everyone seems to be so confused by the new CBA that I haven't really tried to follow it. They've made it so much more complex than it needs to be.
     
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    You know, if getting the C of our dreams doesn't work (Asik or Jordan or something for nothing), then I'm intrigued by the following backup plan.

    We could just roll with a Leonard/Withey/Jermaine or K-Mart (at vet minimum) C rotation and use our cap space to get Webster (~3-5M) , Livingston or Augustine (near vet minimum) and Blair (2-4M). Webster is turning into (like Wes) one of the premier 3-and-D guys in the league, and is good insurance in case Nic or Wes gets banged up again. Blair isn't an all-star, but he's good for what he does (a cheaper Hickson?). A pure, backup PG shouldn't be horribly difficult to find to take the vet min or room exception.

    Lillard/Wes/Batum/LMA/Center platoon with CJ, Webster, Blair, Augustine Claver, rest of C platoon

    That's a decent amount of firepower, decent amount of young vets, good amount of role players with various skills, good trade chips, not a lot of injury history (other than Webster's back, which didn't give him a problem last year). You basically (by substituting one of the C's or Blair in for Hickson) have the same lineup as last year, one year better, and a supremely improved bench. And if you do get to trade LMA or somehow end up needing to trade, you have lots of good, useful pieces on good, useful contracts that shouldn't bog down the team going forward.

    You can go big, small, defensive, 3-point bombing, "scrappy", etc. Obviously C is still the weakness.

    Edit: Totally forgot we just got Robinson. Blair is probably redundant. ;)
     
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    I just think two teams over luxury cap definitely can't and the receiving team can't ever if they are in luxury tax.
     
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    But wouldn't that just get us to a 7th-8th seed at best? That would probably mean Aldridge wouldn't want to resign. Wouldn't the better option be just trading Aldridge for draft picks and a young up and coming? Then at least we can play for the wiggins sweepstakes.
     
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    The L*kers can't receive a player in S&T, b/c they're over the apron. So for instance, they can't S&T Dwight for, say, a S&T'd Josh Smith--unless after the trade they're below the apron (they wouldn't be). But AFAIK they can trade a S&T'd Dwight for, say, Asik or LMA or someone who's already under contract, as long as it meets with the CBA guidelines.
     
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    What a mess.

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    I find myself hoping Howard stays in LAL Land, because with their salary and the aging Kome and Pau, I don't think they are a serious contender. OTOH: If they lose Howard, dump Pao, and rehab Kome, their rebuild is going to take them exactly one year. And that would suck.
     
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    LA might want Asik for his trade value.

    But, other than that, I think LA has no interest in Lin or Asik. Not Hollywood enough.

    If they lose Howard, I think they tank 2014. Move Gasol. Bring Kobe back very slowly. Trot out a team of meh and "Hall-of-Famers" Nash and Kobe that plays not to get hurt. Lose a ton of games, and probably win the fucking lottery. As well as have some cap room for the 2014 free agent class.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Apparently the Thunder are looking at Dorell Wright.

    That Harden trade was awful.
     
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