Is Wesley Matthews a top10 SG?

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Is Wesley Matthews a top10 SG?

  1. Yes

    21 vote(s)
    53.8%
  2. No

    18 vote(s)
    46.2%
  1. Draco

    Draco Well-Known Member

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    For next season only irrespective of contract these are the only SG I'd rather have:

    Harden
    Wade
    Kobe
    Reddick
    Thompson
    Afflalo
    Joe Johnson

    So I guess that shockingly makes Wesley the 8th best NBA SG in my book. What say you?
     
  2. cdub503

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    really reddick over matthews?
     
  3. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I would add:
    Manu (old, but still effective)
    Gordon Hayward
    Gerald Henderson
    Kevin Martin
    Iguodala (although I guess you could call him a 3)
    Tony Allen
    Bradley Beal
    Oladipo (probably)

    Perhaps others?
     
  4. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Where is the list of starters? I see a couple SFs ^


    Sent from HCPs Baller-Ass iPhone 5...FAMS!
     
  5. Draco

    Draco Well-Known Member

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    Well those are fine choices, yes I consider Iggy a 3, I think you can make legit arguments each way. Haywood, Beal, Oladipo are much more valuable for the long term since they are younger and might improve but for just next season I'm taking Wes. KMart is horrific on defense and Tony Allen is horrific on offense, better to have a player that can do something on both ends.
     
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    BlazerBeav Well-Known Member

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    Gordon Hayward? Offensively they were just about dead even. Defensively, it isn't even close as Matthews actually plays defense. Kevin Martin is a chucker whose value has really fallen in recent years.
     
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  7. BigGameDamian

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    Don't forget about Terrence Ross.:pimp:
     
  8. Draco

    Draco Well-Known Member

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    HARDEN
    WADE
    KOBE
    REDDICK
    THOMPSON
    AFFLALO
    JOE J
    WES
    ALLEN
    ELLIS
    ERIC GORDON
    MANU
    WAITERS
    BEAL
    EVANS
    MCLEMORE
    MARTIN
    L WILLIAMS
    SEFOLSHA
    TURNER
    MAYO
    CALDWELL-POPE
    BEN GORDON
    THORNTON
    JR SMITH
     
  9. 3RA1N1AC

    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

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    id rather have wes than klay i think next year
    and joe johnson as well
    and afflalo

    i like haywards offense, but meh, maybe


    heres wes, klay, redick, joe johnson, beal, and hayward ( also ran afflalo and hendersons numbers seperately)

    http://www.basketball-reference.com...013&p5=redicjj01&y5=2013&p6=matthwe02&y6=2013

    he has the highest ts% and eFG% of that group, lowest usage, most steals, least turnovers 2nd most win shares...its not a slam dunk, but id take him next year over all of them i think
    i think id take

    harden
    wade
    kobe
    maybe manu
    maybe hayward (not sure about his d, dont know)

    fuckin a, wessy is a top 5 SG??? :lol:

    the real caveat is NEXT year, obviously gordon/beal/klay would be drafted first in a fantasy draft or whatever, but yeah

    although id take oladipo over him just because
     
  10. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    No. Sorry for all those who agree with me because now your opinion is shit
     
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    i might take lou williams actually, always had a haron for that guy
     
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    show me your list so i can pick it apart :lol:
     
  13. BigGameDamian

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    I'm not much of a fan of 6"1 shooting guards.
     
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    yeah me either, just always liked his game, kinda down last year though
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    For next season only, these SG's I'd rather have for various reasons

    Wade
    Bryant
    Harden
    Hayward
    Henderson
    Williams
    Iguodala
    Thompson
    Dudley
    DeRozen
    Redick
    Beal
    Sefolosha

    I also think Jeremy Lamb will be better than Matthews soon
     
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    As I opened this thread I immediately said to myself no fucking way is he in the top 10 and quickly voted that way. And I still believe that.

    However the more I look at everyone's lists, the less confident I become. He isn't that far off.
    Where did all the great SG's go? I knew it was dwindling but damn......No wonder so many teams are starting to use two PG's at the same time. Not many SG's on those lists that make me scream
    "CJ and Damian can defend the position". They are going to have a much tougher time guarding the quick PG's in this league.

    Back to Wes......he is still not top 10 but I am glad we kept him.
     
  18. magnifier661

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    I would love to have Iggy paired with batum. I think Iggy would show batum how real men play the wing.

    Matthews is one of those players that doesn't have a high skill set; but plays at a 110% of his talent. Maybe even more.

    There are a shit ton of players way more talented than Matthews: but play to 50-65% of their potential. Also, the SG spot usually has the most arrogant of the players, usually selfish, and chucks. Matthews plays within the team philosophy and hardly ever forces anything.
     
  19. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Well I don't think I'd want Bryant next year, but I can't fault your list ... although I tend to see everything on this list below Harden, Wade and (healthy) Bryant as kind of a kludge of "OK, but not great" players -- also, I'd probably throw Tony Allen in there somewhere.
     
  20. Mediocre Man

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    Forgot about Allen for sure.

    I have Kobe there because I'd like his expiring contract
     

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