Report: Unnamed NBA players linked to Biogenesis clinic scandal

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Which is good! It's why he practices and works out and eats right, too. In theory.
     
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    How do we know Wes Mathews isn't one of the unnamed NBA players taking PED's?
     
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    I agree with you for once. The rules are the rules right now, though, and some PEDs are considered off-limits by the NBA, while others are allowed. Don't like the laws? Change them!
     
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    Because he's never been to Florida other than to play games? Plus, Wes should get his money back if he's one of the PED players.
     
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    So, it is OK for joe average citizen to be prescribed steroids or HGH - but if an athlete uses them, that's "cheating."

    Balderdash. Steroids aren't some magical potion that turn a normal person into the incredible Hulk. If the primary benefit of steroids is to speed recovery from injury - what is the problem with that?
     
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    Why? To go from undrafted to nice big contract in one year is pretty damn PEDrrific!
     
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    Not if the long term use of the PEDs leads to health complications later in life.
     
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    Steroids make a bad player a decent player, a decent player a good player, and a good player a great player.

    That was a quote from someone in baseball. Can't remember off-hand who though. I agree with it. It has that ability. You can't go from bad to great but you can jump a level.
     
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    Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting that cheating be allowed. I question that there is a rule against being the best athlete one can be. If they get rid of the rule, it's not cheating anymore.

    People smoke, knowing the odds are it is shortening their lives or will make their quality of life not so good later on. If these PEDs somehow shorten an athlete's life, it seems to me he should have the choice.
     
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    I'll call Batum in the office pool

    :D
     
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    Because kids emulate their heroes and idols. Steroids in high school sports is already a big enough problem. If professional athletes were allowed to take them it would cause kids to gulp them down. Imagine what would have happened to Zimmerman if Trayvon would have also been experiencing roid rage.
     
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    Is it a choice? You come from a low income environment where sports is your best chance out. If roid are legal, kids and young adults will be injecting day and night.

    Why not legalize heroin or cocaine . . . if it shortens their life, they made the choice.
     
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    His game has really improved since then, though. So was he on PEDs at Marquette?
     
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    Long-terms cortisone shots lead to complications later in life. So does surgery removing cartilage and injecting blood to be "fake" cartilage.
     
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    What the fuck?
     
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    LOL! I don't really think he's on PEDs.
     
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    in a low income environment, high income environment, ANY environment, pro sports is never the best chance out. That's ridiculous.
     
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    I knew you'd like that.
     
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    OK, in context, we were talking about athletically gifted kids who have the potential to play at college and pro level . . . if they can improve their game by taking drugs and that gives them that more of a chance to reach the next level . . . I just don't see it as much of a choice for most for those kids, especially if you come from a low income environment
     
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    Office pool - I've got Lillard
     
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