Report: Unnamed NBA players linked to Biogenesis clinic scandal

I pray it's not LeBron. When Hedo Turkoglu gets busted for PED's, it's sort of comical, but if LeBron got busted, that would seriously endanger the league's image, for right or wrong.

As much as I dislike LeBron, in the greater scheme of things, LeBron, or any other star for that matter, getting busted for PED's would be an insurmountable black eye for the league.

 

Gotta be Oden.

 

Still too soon Sly...

 

Lebron and A-Rod poke each other in the butt!! :MARIS61:

 

Does that mean my kids can cheat on tests to get into a better college, to get a better job than they probably deserve? Cheating is cheating, whether you agree it should be or not is different.

 

Ah, ok.

I have no issue with NBA players juicing or whatever, but for some reason I hate the thought of baseball players doing it. I wonder what the difference is to me?

 

Well, the problem is that I don't agree that they're not harming someone else. Presumably, performance enhancing drugs do what their name implies: enhance an athlete's performance...at least for a period of time before harmful side effects kick in. If professional sports were to allow their use, then more and more athletes would start to use the drugs in order to improve their chances of performing better and earning bigger money. As that happens, in a profession where there are far fewer jobs than people who want them, pretty soon the only way a young player is going to have a chance to compete is to use drugs, whether they would otherwise be so inclined or not. And, of course, young kids seeing their sports idols using PEDs achieving success, are going to start using them too to try to improve their chances of a future in sports. If these drugs were without side effects, then sure, why not allow everybody to use them. But they're not and it would pretty much suck if sports were allowed to degenerate into an industry where selfish athletes in pursuit of their own "happiness" were allowed to set up conditions where the use of such drugs became obligatory if you want to have a chance to succeed.

 

You are right as always. What I hate is the legal system jumping into this issue, eager to imprison people for disagreements in philosophies. Keep up the good work.

 

Repped.

 

Kobe, Lebron, Wade.

 

1) Many prescription drugs can be dangerous. They are regulated - not banned.

2) If HGH and steroids are so dangerous, why is it legal for a non-athlete to use them?

3) "Won't somebody think of the children!" Hogwash. There are many activities we allow adults to engage in, but not kids. "No" is not a dirty word, and you shouldn't feel guilty using it with your kids.

 

In the work world, it is higher priority to be efficient for the boss than the priority to have perfect fairness between workers. So coffee is legal. No one complains whether a coworker has an advantage; everyone just works hard.

In sports, it is higher priority to entertain the fans with big strong bodies than it is to maintain fairness over who gets into the league. So substances to make bigger bodies should be allowed. Besides, it's fair that players who don't try their hardest to expand their bodies should be at a disadvantage. But even if it isn't fair, that's just the way the work world works.

 

Is there someone named Will who is wrongfully incarcerated or are you engaging in a theological discussion? I thought you atheists didn't ascribe to free will being real.

 

The reason that senators give for imprisoning athletes who use performance-enhancing drugs are
1) the athlete hurts his own health and
2) it's unfair to athletes who are too lazy to take the drugs.

1) Then why are the drugs legal for non-athletes?
2) Since when does the work world make fairness to employees a priority?

Should senators go to prison when one of their staffers has any advantage over another?