Gay Marriage in Minnesota

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  1. Further

    Further Guy

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    Those marriage pics were sweet!

    ABM, you are a good man for trying to appreciate love in all it's forms, I hope you continue to grow. I know I am always trying to grow too.

    Marazul, there are many interpretations of the bible, otherwise there would be just one Christain religion.
     
  2. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I appreciate you.....in all your forms. :cheers:

    Are you still in beautiful Central Oregon? Man, I need to get over there.....soon!!
     
  3. Further

    Further Guy

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    Still there and loving it. Went to the lava caves today and the high desert museum with a niece and nephew. just having some BBQ and a couple beers when it started to rain, aside from that its been super relaxing.
     
  4. MarAzul

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    No change, talking about the message, the philosophy of life. The Bible carries this message and Most Christian church vary little from the message. They vary quite a bit in their rituals and practices. For that matter,
    The other main religious philosophies do not vary much from the Christian religion. Howver they do when it come to dealing with violators of the philosophy. Two guys applying for a marriage license in the world of Islam
    might not leave the building together or under their own power. They probably just get a blank stair from the Buddhist and I am not sure what the Hindus would do since I can't find anything written on the subject.

    I will leave you with a Buddhist view, just to be helpful.

    "In the past, there was no such thing as a legal registration of marriages. A man and woman mutually decided to accept each other as husband and wife and thereafter they lived together. Their marriage was carried out in the presence of the community, and separation was rare. The most Important thing was that they developed real love and respected their mutual responsibilities.

    A legal registration of marriage is important today to ensure security and to safeguard property and children. Due to the sense of insecurity, a couple performs legal marriages to ensure that they are legally bound not to neglect their duties and not to ill-treat each other. Today, some couples even draw up a legal contract on what would happen to their property if they are divorced!
    Husband and Wife

    According to Buddhist teaching, in a marriage, the husband can expect the following qualities from his wife:

    — love
    — attentiveness
    — family obligations
    — faithfulness
    — child-care
    — thrift
    — the provision of meals
    — to calm him down when he is upset
    — sweetness in everything

    In return, the wife's expectation from husband is:

    — tenderness
    — courtesy
    — sociability
    — security
    — fairness
    — loyalty
    — honesty
    — good companionship
    — moral support

    Apart from these emotional and sensual aspects, the couple will have to take care of day-to-day living conditions, family budget and social obligations. Thus, mutual consultations between the husband and wife on all family problems would help to create an atmosphere of trust and understanding in resolving whatever issues that may arise.
    The Buddha's Advice to a Couple
    I. The Wife

    In advising women about their role in married life, the Buddha appreciated that the peace and harmony of a home rested largely on a woman. His advice was realistic and practical when he explained a good number of day-to-day characteristics which a woman should or should not cultivate. On diverse occasions, the Buddha counseled that a wife should:

    a) not harbor evil thoughts against her husband;
    b) not be cruel, harsh or domineering;
    c) not be spendthrift but should be economical and live within her means;
    d) guard and save her husband's hard-earned earnings and property;
    e) always be attentive and chaste in mind and action;
    f) be faithful and harbor no thought of any adulterous acts;
    g) be refined in speech and polite in action;
    h) be kind, industrious and hardworking;
    i) be thoughtful and compassionate towards her husband, and her attitude should equate that of a mother's love and concern for the protection of her only son;
    j) be modest and respectful;
    k) be cool, calm and understanding — serving not only as a wife but also as a friend and advisor when the need arises.

    In the days of the Buddha, other religious teachers also spoke on the duties and obligations of a wife towards her husband — stressing particularly on the duty of a wife bearing an off-spring for the husband, rendering faithful service and providing conjugal happiness.

    Some communities are very particular about having a son in the family. They believe that a son is necessary to perform their funeral rites so that their after-life will be a good one. The failure to get a son from the first wife, gives a man the liberty to have another wife in order to get a son. Buddhism does not support this belief.

    According to what the Buddha taught about the law of Karma, one is responsible for one's own action and its consequences. Whether a son or a daughter is born is determined not by a father or mother but the karma of the child. And the well-being of a father or grandfather does not depend upon the action of the son or grandson. Each is responsible for his own actions. So, it is wrong for men to blame their wives or for a man to feel inadequate when a son is not born. Such Enlightened Teachings help to correct the views of many people and naturally reduce the anxiety of women who are unable to produce sons to perform the "rites of the ancestors."

    Although the duties of a wife towards the husband were laid down in the Confucian code of discipline, it did not stress the duties and obligations of the husband towards the wife. In the Sigalovada Sutta, however, the Buddha clearly mentioned the duties of a husband towards the wife and vice versa.
    II. The Husband

    The Buddha, in reply to a householder as to how a husband should minister to his wife declared that the husband should always honor and respect his wife, by being faithful to her, by giving her the requisite authority to manage domestic affairs and by giving her befitting ornaments. This advice, given over twenty five centuries ago, still stands good for today.

    Knowing the psychology of the man who tends to consider himself superior, the Buddha made a remarkable change and uplifted the status of a woman by a simple suggestion that a husband should honor and respect his wife. A husband should be faithful to his wife, which means that a husband should fulfill and maintain his marital obligations to his wife thus sustaining the confidence in the marital relationship in every sense of the word. The husband, being a bread-winner, would invariably stay away from home, hence he should entrust the domestic or household duties to the wife who should be considered as the keeper and the distributor of the property and the home economic-administrator. The provision of befitting ornaments to the wife should be symbolic of the husband's love, care and attention showered on the wife. This symbolic practice has been carried out from time immemorial in Buddhist communities. Unfortunately it is in danger of dying out because of the influence of modern civilization."
     
  5. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Can't remember, is that, like, spelunking?
     
  6. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Then, there's this...

    http://news.yahoo.com/gay-couple-set-sue-church-england-over-refusal-180107808.html

     
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    No, we rented lanterns and basically did a very easy one mile hike in, turned around and came back. Not hard at all, but fun to see the geology inside the caves and think about the many people's over the centuries who have had to use those caves for shelter or protection.
     
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  8. MickZagger

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    I think its cool when it rains out there. It always smells great.
     
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    When I got married at City Hall, she said "do you take this man to be your lawfully wedded...spouse?" It was very funny.
     
  10. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I still don't quite understand that "openness" regarding your relationship. What does the "marriage" aspect get you?
     
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    It's the ponderosa pines. They smell so awesome after the rains. Love it.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Just landed in Minny...... I don't see any of The Gays here in the airport!


    Sent from HCPs Baller-Ass iPhone 5...FAMS!
     
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    and the junipers.
     
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    Of course you saw gays at the airport. They just weren't wearing their Gay Uniform. So you couldn't tell. We blend in, you know, that's how we subvert and destroy hetero marriage and puppies and rainbows. OK, not rainbows.

    I would venture to say the clergypersons in Minnesota and Rhode Island know their calling better than MarAzul, who has yet to show knowledge of anything.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Check the bathroom stall, wide stance and tap your foot.

    hoop fam
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Gay dudes, perhaps. Lesbians, not so much.
     
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    80% of the lesbians I know could pass if we wanted to. Myself included. And I'd venture to say I know a few more than you do.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I believe that, don't get me wrong.

    Maybe it's the hair that's a giveaway, but on any given day, in any given crowd, I can take a look at two ladies and think to myself....lesbians. I mean, hey, I'm a single guy.....who's always considering his options. :)
     
  19. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    post highschool graduation we all stayed in sunriver. a couple decided they wanted to go check out the caves, we all decided to pass. they defiled that sacred place!
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    AH HA! So you do have a gay uniform! I knew it.
     

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