Blazers sign Mo Williams

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    This signing reminds me of Whitsitt: acquire a good player if you can get him even if he duplicates what we already have. Mo Williams, Damian Lillard, CJ McCollum, all incredibly similar. Scoring guards with not-amazing passing ability and questionable defense. I wonder if Denver would be interested in a Mo-for-Andre swap. We'll throw in Joel for free.
     
  2. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yep, the only catches are:

    The guys you waive still count against the luxury tax (if you go over the threshold) and you can only offer minimum salary contracts to any new guys you sign.

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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Nope, but the injury exception (Disabled Player Exception) lets you potentially offer the new player more money:

    "The team may sign a free agent for one season only, for 50% of the disabled player's salary or the amount of the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, whichever is less."

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    Why was Olshey so happy to have the 15th spot open, when you can just waive players to create roster space for a trade, anyhow? Are you positive you can release as many players as you want with the vet minimum and add players if you're over the cap? I still don't see that in the CBA. I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I wonder why even have 15-man rosters if you can just pay up to, let's say, 20 players over the course of a year? Seems like a way to circumvent the cap.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Again from the CBA FAQ:

    "MINIMUM PLAYER SALARY EXCEPTION -- Teams can offer players minimum salary contracts even if they are over the cap. Contracts can be up to two years in length. For two-year contracts, the second season salary is the minimum salary for that season. The contract may not contain a bonus of any kind. This exception can also be used to acquire minimum salary players via trade. There is no limit to the number of players that can be signed or acquired using this exception."

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    We signed Mo with the room exception bnm
     
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    I agree with bnm. You can cut and sign as many minimum guys as you want.

    Didn't we waive Ronnie price last year?
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Thanks! Do you know what, if any, exceptions we have left? Have we used the bi-annual?

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    I love this move, now we have a very solid bench. Mo has been a starting PG most of his career, great shooter. It'll be good for the Blazers starters to not have to worry so much about foul trouble, or conserving energy.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yes, Price was waived to clear a roster spot for Eric Maynor. We used a trade exception and the draft rights of Georgios Printezi to land Maynor, but had to waive Price to clear a roster spot.

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    I don't think we have any left. We would have had to renounce the bi annual exception so we could use the cap space. The only exception you get if you have cap space is the room exception I believe. Next year as a non taxpayer team I believe we will have the mle and bi annual exceptions

    Edit - non taxpayer team that will stay under the apron I believe
     
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    9 pages and no mention that Mo Williams was a 2009 NBA All Star.

    Also, mags, it's weird seeing LeBron in Darius Miles' jersey. Can you pick a better number?
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Well, you still have to pay all those guys you waive. So, you're basically paying them not to play for you. Plus they still count against the cap and the luxury tax. Do you really want to cross the luxury tax threshold for guys like Ronnie Price? There are strong financial disincentives to just waiving players willy nilly.

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    Thanks!
     
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    That still says nothing about having a full roster, though.
     
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    How many owners want to pay a player $700k to not be on the team? Plus a tax team like Miami has to pay 300% luxury tax so that is over $2 million for a player that isn't on the roster. There are usually a few teams that end up doing this but the only benefit is acquiring additional minimum salary players.
     
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    Been gone all day, but...Mo Williams? Nice pick-up. I'm thinking that the days of the Blazers having the worst bench in the league are long gone in the rear-view mirror. I think that, between improved defensive stats taking away say a couple of buckets per game, and increased offensive production of maybe 4-5 points per game due to having a bench that can actually score, this summer's moves should easily equate to a net improvement of 7-8 points per game. It would be interesting to look at last year's record and see what that would equate to in increased wins.
     
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    I get it, but I'm surprised teams contending don't use this option more often to fill a hole late in the season.
     
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    I'm not getting your issue here, PapaG. The Blazers can waive a player anytime they want. It doesn't remove their obligation to pay him and it doesn't take him off of their team salary, but it opens a roster spot. They can then sign a veteran for the minimum to fill that spot.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    When you waive a player, it immediately clears a roster spot:

    "The player's roster spot is freed-up as soon as the team places the player on waivers. It can sign a new player or acquire one via trade immediately, without waiting for the player to be claimed or to clear waivers."

    It's all spelled out in the CBA FAQ.

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