NBA players coming out early compared to college experience

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  1. magnifier661

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    Since Denny took over the Lillard thread, I figured a new thread that can talk about the metric of NBA players comping out early, to those that stay in College.

    https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/329619/original/Sugai-EffectEarlyEntrytoNBA.pdf

    This study explains that the school experience is better for players that don't have "superstar talent"; but it also explains that the "mental maturity" is learned through college; with these young kids able to learn respect, humility and team philosophy.

    Here is a quote from this study....

     
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    I think players should come out as early as they realize they're gay. Of course, sometimes it takes an experience in college to bring them to that realization. College is all about experimentation.
     
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    College brings out the best in you
     
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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Rastapopoulos again.
     
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    I believe that a real player needs 2 years experience at the college level before getting it at the pro level.
     
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    According to both studies, you are correct.
     
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    People also get in to major debt going to collage nowadays and end up doing job(s) that they could do without a degree.
     
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    The problem I see are how many of these superstar talent type players never learn how to grow up. They get millions and they don't know how to live in that type of income class.

    Shawn kemp is an example of high schooler that wasn't able to be responsible. Duncan is an example of a senior that comes in and has a great career and a great head on their shoulders.

    College teaches a player respect, team comradery, and learning to live within your means.
     
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    Shawn Kemp is the most responsible player there is. He has paid child support faithfully on every kid. When the Blazers felt they hadn't gotten their money's worth, he optioned out of almost THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS and left to make $1 million per year in Orlando. All those $3M amounts added to every Pritchard trade to bribe opposing owners--Allen got that money from Kemp, and a lot more.
     
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    kemp sucked.

    He was a 6-time all-star. Career PER of 19.

    He did eat his way out of the league.
     
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    High level talent that lost his stardom to Coccaine and over eating. If he only stayed in school to learn the important fundamentals of life.
     
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    Hurting yourself is not the definition of irresponsibility. A couple of months ago I saw him answer a crowd's every boring question for an hour, then sign every stupid autograph for over an hour. He did it to help the return of the Sonics, not for money.

    A few years ago, Payton ran away from us after minimal time and jumped into his limo.
     
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    Michael Vick went to college. Qyntel Woods had one season of college.
     
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    if you are good enough to play significant minutes as an 18 year old, good for you, go to the nba

    if you arent, college will (most likely) make you better than sitting on the end of a bench in the nba will

    seems pretty logical to me
     
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    And? Roy went to college, Kareem went to college, Karl Malone went to college.

    I have kids and I remembered when I was 18. Being young and dumb with millions can completely ruin you.

    And the 1 year of college is like coming out of high school now.
     
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    Bob Filner has a PhD from Cornell. It prepared him to sexually harass a woman a month (that we know of) in his first year in office as mayor of San Diego.

    He stayed extra years to learn those extra fundamentals.

    EDIT: removed : mags : smiley.
     
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    So you believe that a 18 year old with a million dollars would have the same statistical chance to be responsible than a 22 year old that graduated college?

    : mags :
     
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    I don't think there's any correlation whatsoever.
     
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    Well you are wrong
     

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