Religious S-storm about intelligence

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  1. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    As an atheist, I already knew this.
     
  3. santeesioux

    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    This topic will end well.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Lmao. That's about as empirical as studying piles of shit and saying this was the moment atheism decided to stop believing
     
  6. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I believe the premise, but ...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_race_and_intelligence_controversy

    In 1912 the Columbia psychology graduate Frank Bruner reviewed the scientific literature on auditory perception in black and white subjects in Psychological Bulletin,[12] characterizing, "the mental qualities of the Negro as: lacking in filial affection, strong migratory instincts and tendencies; little sense of veneration, integrity or honor; shiftless, indolent, untidy, improvident, extravagant, lazy, lacking in persistence and initiative and unwilling to work continuously at details. Indeed, experience with the Negro in classrooms indicates that it is impossible to get the child to do anything with continued accuracy, and similarly in industrial pursuits, the Negro shows a woeful lack of power of sustained activity and constructive conduct."[6]

    In 1916 George O. Ferguson conducted research in his Columbia Ph.D. thesis on "The psychology of the Negro",[13] finding them poor in abstract thought, but good in physical responses, recommending how this should be reflected in education.[14] In the same year Lewis Terman, in the manual accompanying the Stanford-Binet Intelligence Test,[15] referred to the higher frequency of morons among non-white American racial groups stating that further research into race difference on intelligence should be conducted and that the "enormously significant racial differences in general intelligence" could not be remedied by education.[14]

    (Those are those early IQ test type studies)

    In 1965 William Shockley, Nobel laureate in physics and professor at Stanford University, made a public statement at the Nobel conference on "Genetics and the Future of Man" about the problems of "genetic deterioration" in humans caused by "evolution in reverse". He claimed social support systems designed to help the disadvantaged had a regressive effect. Shockley subsequently claimed the most competent American population group were the descendants of original European settlers, because of the extreme selective pressures imposed by the harsh conditions of early colonialism.[37] Speaking of the "genetic enslavement" of African Americans, owing to an abnormally high birth rate, Shockley discouraged improved education as a remedy, suggesting instead sterilization and birth control.

    (more recent)
     
  7. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    If you want to take this study to heart, then you will have to admit that blacks are less intelligent than white and Asians are the smartest on the planet.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence

    Go ahead and factor Mexicans and Africans that have low income and academic programs.

    :maris69:
     
  9. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    I think you want MARIS61 not maris69, thats something we all fear doing.
     
  10. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Lol
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    No the point is there are a large demographic of very intelligent theists; but this researcher used the less fortunate areas to fudge the numbers; just as the researcher that used this same demographic for blacks and Mexicans in the us.

    When you are in poverty, atheism is harder to believe in. They tend to flock towards beliefs that support humanity will go into glory; which has nothing to do with stature.
     
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    Seems like a giant pat yourself on the back moment for atheists. Good for them?
     
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    yeah, man , thats what 40 billion people in hell are saying...(couldent resist)
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    If there are 40 billion people in hell that would mean god is a giant failure.
     
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    There haven't been 40 billion people, ever.

    But whatever :)
     
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    come on, a guy cant even make a play on McDonalds "Over X served".......
     
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    What's funny is when they kid and someone gets offended, they get all worked up. If we kid, then they get all worked up.

    Regardless, this study is about as useful as the piece of toilet paper I used to wipe my ass. Until they make a real study based on real demographics, then I can take studies like these seriously. If they are being used and fudged to serve their own agendas, then it's worthless.

    ^^^^ note to atheist saying the same for theist studies. Take some of your own advice assholes!
     

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