Lesbian couple refused wedding cake files state discrimination complaint

Naw, I don't really give a shit either. I just wanted to see if I could provoke a bull shit response for someone that did care. The Idea of a Kosher cake for a gay wedding did give me a chuckle though. But I am surprised you came with the bull shit.

 

There is no blessing a rabbi (or any person for that matter) can say to make food kosher. The term “Kosher” refers to the fact that all of the ingredients within a given product (or process of production) are Biblically and Rabbinically permitted. Kosher food is initially defined in the Torah. Permitted animals have to be slaughtered (and then soaked and salted) in a certain way to make their meat kosher. Meat products and Dairy products are kept separate…and there is much more! The role of the kosher supervisor is to ensure that all of the ingredients — and the process in which those ingredients are used — are (you guessed it!) kosher.

If the ingredients are Kosher than the food is Kosher. You may argue sects of Judaism would or would not approve of the marriage, but the food is most certainly Kosher even if it's being baked into the shape of a cross with frosting that says "screw god".

 

Money talks, bullshit walks.

You think "kosher wine" is really kosher? If you only knew (or Kewish people wanting kosher wine)....

 

My guess is it depends upon your view of the wedding cake. Whether the salient ingredient is the Wedding or the Cake.

 

basically all the ingredients in wine are kosher already, to be kosher there just needs to be a Sabbath observing Jew involved in all parts of the wine making process.

It's kind of funny, I went over to some friends of the family house for the Sabbath a couple years ago, and they made a big deal about serving kosher wine. But then she served the wine alongside a meal that included fresh oysters, a cream sauce for the chicken, and yes, you guessed it, bacon bits in the salad. Of course they weren't kosher, but thought that getting kosher wine was just a nice touch to connect us to our brethren throughout the land.

 

The ingredients are the flour, sugar..., not the wedding or the cake. The cake is the product of those ingredients and the wedding is the occasion at which the cake will be served. I really don't get what your argument is. I'm not claiming that many Orthodox Jews wouldn't be against the wedding or that the Bible doesn't speak against gays, I'm simply saying that kosher is about the ingredients and process, not about other conflicts with the Bible or religion. An analogy for you, it's like if the police do an illegal search and seizure, but someone keeps saying that violates the first amendment. It violates the 4th, and the person could point that out and look reasonable, but when they keep saying it violates the first amendment they seem silly.

 

Exactly right. Repped.

 

If you say so Further. However the Baker may not agree with you, they would be pleased to make a cake, but refused to make a Wedding Cake.

 

As I said, money talks, bullshit walks. It's a very simple process. There's a lot of "kosher" wine out there that took nothing more than money.

 

Repped.

 

Absolutely. And we all have the right to point out their bigotry and boycott that business.

 

What if a gay couple wants a cherry-icing penis at the top of the cake? Does the baker have to make a cake he finds repulsive?

 

I've been to a place that requires suit and tie or no service.

Ultimately, how is this different?

 

It's not any different. At all.

They're not being asked to marry the couple. They're not being asked to engage in homosexual acts. They're being asked to make a cake. That is all.

 

Bingo

 

I was kidding.

Thanks for playing.

 

Not exactly right at all. We have to stand up for our rights or we will never be treated equally. That's like asking a black person in the 60s to say fuck off to the whites only establishments and just go to colored only ones. Seriously.

 

No. At best, you're unaware of the law.