Transgender first grader - Are you okay with it?

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

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    has a cock. not a girl.

    If you dressed up as a girl and said you were, it wouldn't make it true.
     
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    My guess is you don't have children. As for teaching them lessons, some lessons can wait until after 1st grade.

    The solution is easy, it's just the parents trying to force their belief system on the school as a whole.
     
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    way to cut to the quick! this fact seems to be the heart of the matter, and many enjoy confusing the issue,. repped
     
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    Which parents trying to enforce their belief system? Everything was fine in kindergarten, then the school sends this letter:

    "However, I'm certain you can appreciate that, as Coy grows older and his male genitals develop along with the rest of his body, at least some parents and students are likely to become uncomfortable with his continued use of the girls' restroom."


    Look I'm not going to pretend to understand the idea of being born a boy but feeling like a girl. But I do know that this kid is different and my bet is it is not the 6 yr kids who are uncomfortable with it, it is the parents . . . and maybe they should be (if I was uncomfortable with something happening at my child's school, I would try to change it too)

    After reading the article, personally. I think the school handled this correctly by giving him alternative options. It a tough topic and there are arguments on both sides, but school taking a middle ground approach sends the right message to other kids, IMO.
     
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    I don't think the world and the issues we discuss are as simple as you think they are. These are difficult topics that raise a lot of discussion (which is a good thing) for a reason.
     
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    while I rspect your opinion, this is cut and dry to me.

    This is a boy that believes he is a girl

    We as a sociaty have Mens bath rooms, ladies rooms and multi gender bath rooms.

    If this boy has a problem with using the boys room, then as there are no "boys that believe they are girls" room, than a multi gender bath room should be made available for him

    and for the record, yes it does grate me to a small degree that once again the issue becomes not inclusion, but rather exception..
     
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    Reminds me of the movie "Harold and Kumar".

    That movie clearly shows that girls can hold their own at "battle shits".
     
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    I have a son. I'd be infuriated if I found out the school was letting a girl share a bathroom that wasn't private or a lockerroom with him. They're plenty curious and they don't understand boundaries. You may think of it as "educational" or just a "belief system", but my child doesn't need to be some part of fucking experiment.

    I'm sorry that some child "feels" different. However, that child's rights do not supercede the rights of my child.
     
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    Why should the school have to accommodate a boy who thinks he is a girl by either building a rest room, or turning one of the current rest rooms into his own private rest room?


    What seems cut and dry to me is that this is a BOY. Until this BOY can have the surgery HE probably needs, then HE should use the BOYS room in public places. Does this family get to sue any place that wont let this BOY pee in the girls bathroom?
     
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    Reasonable way to feel and guessing that is why the school is making the change. As you said earlier, parents trying trying to force their belief system on the school as a whole.

    I don't think gender neutral bathrooms are an experiment as much as I don't think sexual education in schools is an experiment but rather schools trying to do the right thing. Like I said before I think these are hard topic that have probably been discussed at length. Some think schools should not give sexual education or debate what is the appropriate age to introduce that to kids? These schools are shaping the future leaders of tomorrow . . . I hope thye put a lot of thought and get a opinions from a wide variety of people before making decisions like these.
     
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    I know how I feel. I call bullshit! The first grader has yet to develop any qualms these parents are asserting in this case.
     
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    Repped x 3.

    It's so fucking simple, I really do not get the confusion some people are having. Or how calling a child with a penis a boy somehow makes me a bigot of some sort.

    People want to start accommodating ever "feeling" children have? This is absolutely ridiculous. Some of you are brainwashed freedom haters.
     
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    some first graders think they are dogs. :MARIS61:
     
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    The boy/girl is an exception. So he should use an "exception" room, i.e. multi-gender restroom.

    I have two young daughters. I have no issues with this boy/girl. I have no issues if my girls brought this child home as a friend. I would, however, take issue with this child using the girls' restroom or locker room.

    Why should the school accomodate one child at the dismay of all the girls in the school (and all of the parents) by allowing the child to use the girls' room? Sounds like if the school is offering alternatives, that should be more than enough to accomodate this "alternative" child.
     
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    some 12th graders are
     
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    the correct term is "outlier". I wouldn't even go that far though as he's a boy with nothing more than a change in perception.
     
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    The other correct term is "attention whore mom".
     
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    I think it's more simple than that.
     
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    Rape culture?
     

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