Two important HIV breakthroughs, one local.

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  1. Further

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    I'm just using your tactic, I call bullshit
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I forget the thread, but I touched on the biomedical incubator model being used to build SoWa. I think it's a smart move. It attracts exactly the kind of people you want to come to Portland and creates a critical mass of a growth industry.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Oops. Should have read the entire thread before I posted.
     
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    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    fantastic arguement

    come on

    explain your opinion instead of clinging to the heart string tug at every bleading heart talking point that you can find
     
  5. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Nah, it's nice to see you post that. Portland lacks an economic plan for the future, people have this utopia vision and no way to pay for it.
     
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    Wrong
     
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    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    bing fucking go
     
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    Parkinson's isn't a behavior based (primarily) disease. AIDS is ( and not just by homosexual sex, by the way), and until people want to talk about that fact, then the disparity in fundraising is a joke. FWIW, gays are one of the highest income demographics in the country. That can't be connected to the ridiculously amount of government money spent in terms of percentage on AIDS research though, right?
     
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    You've been cornered. How many people do you know right now who are in treatment for AIDS?
     
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    The regressive tax structure on corporations moving into Portland drives away business. Unless, of course, the City Council is willing to waive corporate taxes. That's why some businesses are still in Portland.
     
  11. Further

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    I have explained my thinking, and as I said earlier, I really wasn't trying to get into this type of exchange. Nothing interesting is even being argued, I read between the lines and you say there is nothing between the lines. Ok, nowhere to go from there.
     
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    That's fair, but the amount of federal money being spent on AIDS versus cancer is a joke to me. I don't think anyone deserves to die, but I read the anger in crandc's posts and wonder what the hell she is upset about. AIDS is the most studied virus in history, in terms of money spent on it.
     
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    I know zero with AIDs, but I know 3 with Parkinson's.
     
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    between the lines is where you live..gawd damn you piss me off. gain a perpsective of your own and stand by it

    you think that the poipular view is the safe one? fuck no! if you want to express your self find something that you have passion for and stand by that..wishy washy is bull shit

    I like you as a poster..you have smarts..fuck, use it
     
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    Thats' a rep.
     
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    Gracis
     
  17. Further

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    I don't know the monetary splitt, but I agree more should go towards cancer, I just disagree that less should go towards AIDS. There is a reason why it is so heavily stuied with 25 million already dead, and since it spreads relatively easy. Without the research done so far, I imagine not only would many millions who live with HIV be dead, but millions more would be infected. I have never been involved in any way with AIDS research but I have either been directly or tangentially involved with Cancer, Alzheimer's and Parkinson's research over the past few years. I most certainly see the need to increase research in these areas. I also see the need to research HIV.

    And one more thing to consider is heavily researching any one area (HIV/AIDS in this case ) tend to also help many other areas of science because it enables a much deeper look into the workings of our biology, pathways used, enzymes expressed and so on. As I pointed earlier in this thread, it looks like the most recent breakthrough could directly lead to a novel type of vaccines that may allow us to vaccinate many diseases that were previously eluding us. It's possible this AIDS research could lead to vaccines for malaria, TB or he Flu.

    Overall, I'm a huge supporter of more funding of the sciences. I'm willing to make cuts in almost any other government spending because I believe this research brings in a healthier life, a happier people, a richer society, tons of small businesses, and a bunch of real good will.
    thats who you know. Numerically HIV and Parkinson's affects about the same number of people in America, about 150,000 more have aids, but it's close. Personally, I only know one person well, right now, who as either, and he has Parkinson's. I knew more people in the past with AIDS. A lot has to do with your community. Hang out with the elderly, or hang out with gay men, and that may skew ones personal results.

    I really don't know what point you want me to defend. Ask a specific question and I'll do my best to explain my views. I thought I was, but I'll try again.
     
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    fuck all you gays and old people, I wish they cure something that effected me instead.
     
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    This could also lead to cures for both herpes and an cheese-engorged labia minora, so it does affect you too.
     
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    Hahaha thats' a rep!
     

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