Are you a Conservative or Progressive as a result of your Character type?

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  1. MarAzul

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    Thanks Trip. You seem to be the only one bucking the trend. Perhaps you are a younger person identifying yourself as slightly left of center? A true INTJ will find it difficult to remain left over time, I think
    Keirsey's book "Please Understand Me" gives a little better insight into the system. Nothing at all about identifying left and right though.
     
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    BTW Sly, do you know of a way to capture a thread without having to do it page by page manually?
     
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    Perhaps. Or perhaps it's just really difficult to perfectly sort the full breadth of human belief and behavior into 16 categories -- let alone 2. ;)
     
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    How many people in this thread that Identified as T types consider themselves Atheist? My guess is zero.

    How many people in this thread that identified as F type people consider themselves Atheist? My guess is more than a few.
     
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    I'm an idealist champion

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    Keirsey descriptions

    Champions delight in novelty. They are optimistic, enthusiastic, and vivacious, craving expressions of strong emotion. With a dramatic flair, they share their experiences with others, hoping to reveal some universal truth or win others over in support of a cause. Attuned to possibilities, Champions scan their environment, probing the emotions, needs, and motivations of others. This sensitivity sometimes conflicts with their intense drive for personal authenticity. Spontaneous and personable, they attract others to their company.[3] Champions (ENFP) are full of energy and can spend great amounts of time discussing ideas and possibilities with others. They always look to find meanings in the world, and are more likely to be the champion of causes rather than of individuals. Living fully in this way is extremely important to them and it is their nature. Champions observe all that is going on around them and are quick to bring peace to any unpleasant interaction. They are not afraid to speak up and defend what they think is right and correct, just, or fair.
     
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    Alright! An F type that isn't an atheist. There have to be quite a few though since the F type count for about 50+ percent of the population and only 2.3% are atheist.

    You buck the trend all the way around a conservative Christian F type! These Progressive fellows might be able to learn a thing or two from you. Better chance that from me I think.
     
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    They see me as the devil
     
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    ISTJ, Liberal, Small town, Atheist...
     
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    Is this you?

    The ISTJ personality type is the second most popular one (11.6% of the U.S. population). “Only the facts, please” is their motto – ISTJ personalities respect facts greatly and tend to accumulate a lot of information in their own memory. One of the key contributing factors is their S trait, which allows ISTJs to analyse the surroundings quite effortlessly.

    Due to their straightforward approach, ISTJs may encounter difficulties when it becomes necessary to comprehend a competing theory or idea. However, people with this personality type are nearly unstoppable if they believe that a specific idea is valuable and can be implemented – they will consider it their duty to establish and maintain a smooth operation. As soon as the new procedure proves its usefulness (i.e. it becomes apparent that the new approach actually works), ISTJs will put a lot of effort to enable its successful implementation, even at the expense of their own health.

    ISTJs tend to be extremely thorough, always checking the facts and not assuming anything. ISTJs are also respected for their exceptional loyalty to their duty – their accuracy, patience and ability to concentrate make them ideal employees in many professions. Not surprisingly, people with this personality type gravitate towards traditional, hierarchical institutions – public service, law, military etc.

    ISTJ personalities spend an enormous amount of time and energy performing every task they see as important, especially it contributes to the achievement of a specific goal. However, such a commitment also has a negative side – an ISTJ will refuse to budge and spend at least some of their time doing things that they do not see as meaningful or practical, e.g. some social rituals. ISTJ personalities prefer to do things alone, but can also work as part of a team if necessary.

    ISTJs enjoy being responsible for their actions and love the power that stems from this. They are usually jacks-of-all-trades and this can potentially lead to many significant achievements in diverse areas – ISTJs tend to be bright, logical and wise individuals, characterized by their desire to seek secure and stable life.

    Like other introverted personalities with a well-developed T trait, ISTJs are often (mistakenly) seen as indifferent and cold. Of course, it is understandably difficult for an ISTJ to reveal their emotions or express affection, but that does not mean that they have no feelings or are insensitive.

    ISTJs are easily irritated by other people’s shortcomings – they see their own promises as sacred and cannot understand how someone could consciously fail to meet their obligations. This can be a significant disadvantage at times, as some people can abuse the ISTJ’s strong sense of duty by overloading them with work.

    My observation is that whenever one person is found adequate to the discharge of a duty… it is worse executed by two persons, and scarcely done at all if three or more are employed therein.
    George Washington
    ISTJ personalities tend to keep their opinions to themselves, unless someone asks them directly. People with this personality type are very direct – for them, the truth is always far more important than sensitivity. This ruthless judgment is irreplaceable in refereeing or legal work – where other people might waver, the ISTJ will make the difficult decision while ignoring the emotional background.

    ISTJs respect traditions and do their best to adhere to the existing rules and guidelines. In some cases, this trait can be so strong that the ISTJ will not break the rules even when the consequences for breaking them pale in comparison to what would happen if those rules were followed.

    ISTJs are not particularly good at listening to their own (and especially other people’s) feelings. Consequently, they may face difficulties when it is necessary to understand other people’s emotional needs. On the other hand, ISTJs rarely have any difficulties coping with emotionally charged situations – they can always keep a cool head and act rationally.
     
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    Ha! I don't know the fellow myself but my knowledge of ISTJs leaves me wondering.

    This part of the character hardly leads one to liberal or atheist.

    "ISTJs respect traditions and do their best to adhere to the existing rules and guidelines. In some cases, this trait can be so strong that the ISTJ will not break the rules even when the consequences for breaking them pale in comparison to what would happen if those rules were followed."

    and

    "ISTJs are not particularly good at listening to their own (and especially other people’s) feelings. Consequently, they may face difficulties when it is necessary to understand other people’s emotional needs."
     
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    Yeah it seems like this type of person would be a great banker.
     
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    I will say my trait is pretty dead one. Kind of freaky actually.
     
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    The term "progressive" is ridiculous. It's so smug.

    Saying "conservative" or "liberal" means something. It used to mean fiscally conservative and liberal. Smaller and bigger government. Federalist and anti-federalist.

    This "progressive" crap insinuates that if you're a Democrat, you're for progress, and if you're a Republican, you're not for progress.
     
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    It's actually simpler that that. If you are a progressive, the implication is that the "other" is a regressive.
     
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    I'm a progressive conservative. Socially very liberal, fiscally very conservative.

    I can't stand attention whores on either side of the spectrum who push their BS on us through the government.
     
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    I would have peg you for an ENTP. I wonder if you didn't mess up a couple questions that got the the F instead of the T? Of course you could be right in between with the strong side T coming out in your personality.


    I don't have that issue, just a plain hardcore T, I think my test came out 17 to 3 leaving little doubt. Then the Architect fits also.
     

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