Nation's first transgender homecoming queen

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  1. Mediocre Man

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    I know all about discrimination, I am a white male living in 2013. If you don't think every single type of race, gender religious or sexual orientation person is discriminated against in this day and age, it isn't me who needs to read the book.
     
  2. julius

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    I can't tell if you're being serious here. If you think that the "discrimination" you're getting is on par with that of minorities, I'm not sure there's any point in continuing this discussion, because I don't live in the land of make believe.
     
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    Funny how hatefulness and prejudice is now "normal" and "beautiful" but congratulating a dark skinned Miss America and a transgender prom queen is hateful.

    Gender is a social construct. Obviously, physical genitals are a physical reality, but they are not the be all and end all of gender identity. I'd like to think men are more than their dicks, although sometimes I wonder.

    Most people really don't give a damn about prom queens once they are out of high school. There is no evidence this young woman (who is not a "guy in girl's clothes") committed any crimes, cheated on her SAT, kneecapped her opponent or anything else. Not even a claim she's not pretty enough. Rep to Denny for saying it's her classmates' decision. Of course, considering how many can't respect the decision of the whole damn country to elect a president, twice, I'm not surprised that many of the same folks can't respect these high school students either.
     
  4. Mediocre Man

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    Land of make believe sounds just about perfect for the world you have created for yourself.
     
  5. Mediocre Man

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    About the same % of people couldn't accept when W beat Gore in the first election
     
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    show me the laws that are on the books that discriminate against white people, for being white.

    I don't mind waiting. I'm still waiting for Maris61's proof that i was calling for making gun ownership illegal.
     
  7. Mediocre Man

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    So only laws = Discrimination?
     
  8. julius

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    It's a big part of it. What are some examples that you, a white male, are discriminated against in your life?
     
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    The million white man march on D.C. would be a clear indication of discrimination against white people.

    Where have you been man?
     
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    I guess the first place I would point to is that poor black students today have a better opportunity for scholarships than poor white students according to a study I read over the summer.

    Black people complained, and rightfully so, that they weren't be represented in tv commercials, so now they have to have a black person in them, but no one complains about sports and not having enough whites in them.

    My sons little league was forced to give a black family a reduction in it's fees because they couldn't afford it, but did not offer the same for the white family right behind them, saying that the black family would sue for discrimination.

    A black police officer approached me at a mall that is in a shitty part of town to tell me I shouldn't be there. I asked if the people in this area are allowed to go to the mall by my house, and he laughed and said "of course" I said then I should be allowed to go the this mall without any trouble. He escorted me out of the mall "for my own safety" because black people were complaining I was there.

    Or the fact that I am looked at as the devil for things that happened over 100 years ago simply because I am white
     
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    Or more accurately, poor black students are given a better chance at going to school now than they have had in the past, whereas white students still have access to the same scholarships and financial aid they've had access too for many many many years.

    "Have to have a black person in them"? You mean they actually make commercials that more accurately represent our nation as a whole? Those bastards!

    But really? the fact that the MAJORITY of TV stars are white isn't enough? Or that most news casters are white? Or that movie stars are white?

    Look at the cast of Modern Family. There is 3 minorities, and the rest are whites.

    Look at breaking bad. How many of them are a minority?

    Look at the ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox News and MSNBC, how many of their MAIN broadcasters/shows are minorities? Hell, look at Fox's lineup. How many of them are minority vs white?

    Look at the movies that come out. How many of them are starring white people vs minorities?

    Is this really a concern for you?

    Did the same white family 'right behind them' have the same income levels?

    Did they actually for it and request it, or just assume it wasn't going to given?

    anecdotal evidence is always fun. Did someone chase you out of the neighborhood, call you a racial slur, and then shoot and kill you and claim it was in self defense?

    Who has said that? You are either deliberately making a straw-man, you're just incredibly dense. And since I've read more than 3 sentences you've written, I know you're not dense.

    Do not confuse accepting that the horrific behaviors of the past have an impact on how society as a whole treats people today with you being a "devil".

    You playing the victim is laughable.
     
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    As is it laughable when you do in this day and age
     
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    link?
     
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    You might be on to something, she has more balls than you. Now that would account how the creator messing up the blend. You two were the result.

    But really you have to know the creator gave us conservatives all you progressives so we would have plenty of targets when the civil war starts. Tally five and you make Terminator status.
    Most of you shun guns so it's like a turkey shoot.
     
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    thanks for contributing (? I think that's a contribution) to the conversation.
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    If you really want to know, I believe that God is.

    here is a link that mirrors my thinking in depth http://drtristacarr.wordpress.com/2013/01/08/diffusing-the-transgender-christian-debate/

    I dont believe that gender is a issue in Gods eyes. Thats why my first reply was a short and sweet John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, and who so ever believes in him...." The term who so ever is all inclusive.

    Here is another short read you may enjoy as well. You may be supprised in the variety of sources my reading material comes from. http://planetransgender.blogspot.com/2009/11/transgender-christ-on-path-less-taken.html
     
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    I think that interpretation has merit. I went back and read your responses, and they were actually fairly reasoned. Not that I agree with you, I don't find transgendered people gross at all, but your statements have not been inflammatory. I do hope that you look past those views (or grow beyond them) and are eventually able to see gender as inconsequential, but I do hope you also understand that this is a real person, a teenager, and someone who really was crying and shaking from her perceived pain. We are adults, and regardless mine or your beliefs, no need to crush any teenagers feelings who is not harming other people.
     
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    some actualy do

    apply for a Gov job, or to a Collage and you start out below a person of color or female

    also

    where is your "White History Month"

    White only Collage?

    White TV channels?

    Ya know, I kid some here..but there is some truth in this
     

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