Nation's first transgender homecoming queen

Would also explain Greg Oden.

 

So small he had to marry his cousin!

 

Believe whatever you want to believe.

 

So big that everyone who looked at it got dumber... especially his doctors.

 

Right back at ya.

 

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As I understand it from a friend, it's about the self-image (not the self-image that means self esteem): what shape you feel you are when you close your eyes. Sexuality and gender both have mental and physical components (hormonally, genetically, or mentally sourced), which in certain combinations leads to biologically "mostly male" but mentally "mostly female" dichotomies. It's like the inverse of phantom limb syndrome in a way; the body parts feel wrong the way they are configured.

I'm probably getting details wrong, or filtering them through my friend's interpretation of what was happening to her. But as far as she was concerned, it was (obviously) much more than just a Munchhausen syndrome thing.

 

Wow great construct to get us back on tract!

I believe that it has more to do with the ego than what is natural. Does the Dog humping the other male mean he is gay or maybe showing his dominance? Or why do the lionesses hunt, while the male sits on his ass? A little backwards don't you think?

Regardless, I believe humanity is pretty complex. There are so many variables that can determine a person's ego. Society's influence is one of them.

 

Let me ask you a question, Platypus. At what point in your life did you realize you were a boy? I'd guess you can't remember. You'll say something like you always knew. Oh, maybe not at birth, but from the time you had awareness you knew you were a boy.

Transpeople are just the same. The only difference is that the gender they know themselves to be does not match their physical genitalia.

Transgender is not the same as gender nonconforming. Brittney Griner, for example, is gender nonconforming but not transgender, she has made it clear she always thought of herself as a girl/woman but did not fit the norm of conduct - she prefers male clothing on many occasions, for example. Chelsea Manning is transgender. And due to social prejudice transfolks often go to extremes - transwomen frequently join military and other hyper-male environments trying to "cure" themselves.

Gender nonconformance is a continuum. I have been called unfeminine, often, due to being too outspoken, too good at math, too knowledgeable about sports, and neither knowing nor caring about fashion. And yet I clearly present as a woman. I just don't fit the straitjacket. And this is why gender is indeed a social construct. Because there are shades of gray; transgender, gender nonconforming to greater or less degree, gender conforming, cis gender. And then throw in that definitions of what is proper for male and female has changed over the years, and also varies with race/class (while white women were seen as helpless, fragile, in need of male "protection", and asexual, black women were seen as Amazons who could do unlimited labor, hypersexual, minxes who "made" men rape them). Once a female president was a joke, now it's a very high probability. Once girls were told running would make their uterus fall out, now female athletes are common. Once women were told college education makes us infertile, now women are the majority in colleges. So which is true female gender?

 

I knew I was a boy when I was able to piss standing up

 

Thanks Grandpa.

Seriously, I love how you just exude reactionary dickishness. The grownups are trying to have a conversation.

 

I really don't know. It's confusing to me because I have never thought that way. But, the way I see it, regardless of how or why, transgendered folk go through a big pile of crap trying to live a life that pleases them and doesn't negatively impact anyone else. So reasons be damned, I'll just be nice to them, refer to them as they wish, and not add to the pile of crap they go through.

 

I think we've reached the point that nobody can speak definitively on the subject. There are plenty of resources to check out in order to understand what is happening.

 

here is a good read on the subject http://www.du.ac.in/fileadmin/DU/Academics/course_material/hrge_04.pdf

several schools of thought but the seperation of sex from gender is a first for me

 

I have to say that I'm impressed that you did some research on a subject you didn't understand. Seriously, people on this forum are just SO entrenched sometimes. It's refreshing.

 

What we really need is for a guy who dresses like a chick in HS, and who is popular enough to win homecoming queen, to chime in on the matter.

 

I'm reality. Go on with your faux intellectual circle jerk.

hoop fam

 

Actually that scripture 100% answers your question.

 

thank you. believe it or not, a lot has changed from when I was in school. I have to read a lot to try and stay somewhat up to date, and a subject like this, well I have never felt the need to find out what the latest thoughts were until you challanged me. Thank you.