Should the Blazers guarantee the playoffs?

Please name the legit front court players last year on the Heat other than Lebron and Bosh and don't you DARE include Birdman.

That's what I thought. Your argument is invalid.

 

Randolph and Arthur are NOT "proven NBA caliber players".

 

Chris Andersen had a 17.4 PER

Haslem

Why wouldn't you include Birdman?

 

Anthony Randolph has been in the league for 5 years and has a 17.1 career PER.......3 points higher than Wes Matthews

Arthur is a proven role player in the NBA. Has been for a couple years now.

 

Haslem nor Birdman is the reason they made the playoffs. If neither of them played a second MIA still would have won.

Haslem put up all of 3.9 ppg and 5.4 RPG last season. Birdman had 4.9 and 4.4. Per or not they both suck.

 

I agree with your first point (Haslem/Birdman not being reason for playoffs. But I strongly disagree with your last comment - neither of them suck, not even remotely. Haslem has gotten older and isn't able to play the way he did when he was younger - but during his prime he epitomized how the PF position should be played.

 

Who said anything about them being the reason they made the playoffs?

You are arguing to argue. Portland has no proven front court depth, and if you don't agree with that you are stupid. There, now if you disagree you will be personally attacking yourself

 

You really want me to give a shit about the PER of a player who plays less than 9 mins a game? I'm sure his PER would go down with more minutes.

Arthur? No reason to even bring him up. Proven... Meh... His best season showed averages of 9ppg and 4rpg while never averaging over 20 mins a game.

The only thing he has proven is that we don't know if he is going to stay healthy. I would much rather have Robinson.

 

No you are attacking the Blazers (like all of you negative nancys do) for having the same issue as half of the league. Even the Champions.

 

You are wrong.

Robinson, Leonard and Freeland have proven NOTHING. Haslem and Andersen have both proved they are solid role players, or can step in if there is an injury.

 

Teams need those guys. Portland has none right now.

 

I don't care if any player or coach "guarantees the playoffs." To me, making the playoffs is not something that is improbable. Who cares about making the playoffs? Now if someone guaranteed winning the Division or winning a Playoff series that might put other teams on notice or cause a stir. Guarantying that we are the 8th best team out of 15 does nothing for me.

 

I agree with you that front court depth is a real problem. It and defense are going to be problems for the Blazers next season. However, what you have posted here is false. If you are going to add the Heat's min. contract guys as real players (or whatever) than you have to include Thomas Robinson or you lose your credibility. Even though the consensus is that "Robinson sucked" last season, he was still 16th in the entire league in rebounds per 48 beating out most of the STARTING PFs and Cs in the league:

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/rebounds/sort/avg48Rebounds

Thomas Robinson has not proven NOTHING, he has proven that he is an elite rebounder. The heat would trade the guys you mentioned for Robinson in a flash.

 

They had two chances to do so, and didn't.....just sayin

Robinson rebound per 36 10.7

Haslem rebound per 36 9.6 career (10 seasons)

Andersen rebound per 36 10.5 career (11 seasons)


How has Robinson proven in one year to be elite, when the others have proven to be as effective over multiple years and aren't for some reason?

 

Great post. Repped.

 

Not at all a great post, simply because he agrees with you.


I like red.....I like red too. Great post, repped

 

And you don't like it because you disagree... You like to go back and forth but the truth is the truth. TRob is a top 20 rebounder.

 

If you think any team in this league would successfully trade either Birdman or Haslem straight across for TRob, I have some swampland in Who Dat country for sale.

 

Naw, I don't think the guarantee is needed. Mainly, because their talent is barely good enough if all goes well to just make it. If that makes sense.

I would rather have a guarantee that we will go out and if give it our best for 82 games and whatever happens at the end of the season. Happens.