6000 Wolf Hunting Permits Issued in Montana for only 625 Wolves

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    What we should do is heard them up and sell them to the Filipinos and Koreans. They pay too dollar for dog!
     
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    I think they preferred to be called Canine Americans.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I certainly don't advocate the elimination of species, but having grown up raising cattle I can certainly understand where this impulse comes from.

    It's very difficult to find a way for ranchers and wolves (and other predators for that matter) to coexist.
     
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    6000 Rancher Hunting Permits to be issued in Montana for only 650 Ranchers?

    It's fear, not economics, that drives the extinction of wolves. Ranchers are generously compensated by the government for the extremely rare occurrence of wolves getting their unattended livestock.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    When you had cattle killed by wolves, did you get fully compensated for the cow?
     
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    I don't believe it is rare.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    No wolves where I grew up, but the occasional mountain lion attack and plenty of coyotes. And no we were not compensated for lost calves.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Learn to read.
     
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    Why should we feel sorry for wolves? Lock 'em up and throw away the key.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    What are those varmints howling about now? If there were 6000 wolves and 625 humans, would the wolves put a limit on their hunting permits?
     
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    It is micro-mini rare. Like a grain of sand on the beach.

    Wolves that kill livestock usually kill sheep for obvious reasons.

    Sheep die from dozens of reasons, all more prevalent than wolf attacks.

    http://www.westernwolves.org/index.php/wolf-conflict-facts

    Yes, wolves kill livestock, but not to the degree extremists would have you believe. For example, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, in 2005 wolves killed 244 sheep in Idaho. In 2006, 237 sheep in Idaho were killed by wolves, while in 2007, 185 sheep were killed by wolves across the state.

    Compare those numbers to other causes of death for sheep in Idaho in 2004 (the last year for which complete statistics are available):

    Overall sheep deaths were reportedly due to:

    digestive problems: 1,600
    respiratory disease: 1,300
    birthing problems: 1,100
    miscellaneous health problems: 3,200
    predators (all combined): 12,100 *
    harsh weather: 600
    poisoning: 800

    * Sheep deaths due to predators represented 55 percent of overall losses.

    Predator depredation deaths included:

    coyotes: 7,100 sheep
    dogs: 1,400 sheep
    bears: 1,100 sheep
    mountain lions: 400 sheep
    wolves: 270 sheep

    Click here to see the most recent USDA statistics on sheep losses: http://usda.mannlib.cornell.edu/MannUsda/viewDocumentInfo.do?documentID=1628

    What about cattle?

    From the National Agricultural Statistics Service (NASS) report "Cattle Death Loss", released May 12, 2011:
    Click here to read the entire report

    Nationally - % cattle & calves (combined) lost due to:

    disease, injury, other medical problems: 50.2%
    * 251 times as many as wolves
    unknown and uncategorized non-predator: 18.4%
    * 92 times as many as wolves
    calving: 12.4%
    * 25 times as many as wolves
    weather: 12.3%
    * 25 times as many as wolves
    all predators (including domestic dogs): 5.5%
    specifically dogs: 0.5%
    * 2.5 times as many as wolves
    specifically vultures: 0.3%
    * 1.5 times as many as wolves
    specifically wolves: 0.2%
    * 4% of predator losses
    poisoning: 0.9%
    * over 4 times as many as wolves
    theft: 0.4%
    * twice as many as wolves

     
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    Learn to comprehend.

    It was my suggestion for an alternative hunting season. Cull the idiots from the herd, so to speak.
     
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    Unless you ducked filing taxes, you were compensated.
     
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    Wish I could bag one.
     
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    Really? I thought you were a sheep lover.
     
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    Android sucks. The media spoils their Apple rotten.

    As Karnac the Magnificent would have said, "May 6000 wolves visit your wife's hut tonight."
     
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