I admire your faith in your hermeneutic skills, if not your spelling of "too". However, here's an alternative theory:
I can't figure out what the first half of that sentence is saying. Is it that Aussies kill themselves with guns at 80 times the rate of Americans, or at 80x the rate they used to before the gun ban, or something else? barfo
It shows exactly what I claimed it does. Of course, in any country, your chance of getting shot is 100% if you point a gun to your head and pull the trigger.
No, it does not, and you know it. If the accidental/suicide death toll from guns goes up by the same amount the homicide death toll declines, there has not been a decrease in gun deaths. Wrong again. Some people survive a gunshot to the head, self-inflicted or otherwise. barfo
If suicide by gun goes down, but they resort to poison instead, what difference does it make? I stand by my correct presentation of the data. Your chances of dying by gunshot went down by half. Unless I was standing next to you when the bullet you fired passed through your empty head and hit me. .2 per 100,000 population. Not much of a chance in the first place.
No data exists to suggest clumsy/depressed people would die at a different rate if guns were banned. I have and still do know both suicidal people and clumsy people, and like you or I they will do what they are going to do.
None to me. But since you brought it up, do you have any evidence that people who commit suicide with a gun would succeed at another method if a gun had not been available? Stand by it then. It wasn't correct, and you know it, but you go ahead and pretend like you don't know the difference between deaths by gun and homicides by gun. That'll be very convincing. That line doesn't actually make sense. My chances of dying went down by half unless I accidentally shoot you? barfo
It was correct then and still is now. Your chance of dying from gunshot is 1/2 just as the chart shows. The odds would double if gunshots killed two people at once. Duh. http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/australia Suicides any method, Australia, 1996 - 2,393, 2010 - 2,418.
Sorry, that's completely wrong (especially as written: my chances are much smaller than 1 in 2). In actual fact, whites, if they die of gunshot wounds, it's likely because they pulled the trigger themselves. For example in Oregon in some recent year, there were 96 suicides by gun and 11 homicides. Cut the gun homicide rate by half, and my whiteboy statistical chances of dying by gunshot are reduced by about 6%, not 50% as you claim. barfo
Being ignored are the many legally justified gun deaths which are part of the total number. In 2010 there were 13 self defense gun deaths in Oregon which no doubt LIMITED the perps from causing more gun deaths.
ONE HALF, not one in two. As long as you stay in some recent year in Oregon, you may be right. Nationally, not right at all.
