Blazers & Timbers endorse same sex marriage

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  1. TradeNurkicNow

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    boo hoooo I don't want to think about political issues when I'm watching sports
     
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    Does he have a sauna and daiquiri machine?
     
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    Imagine how shocking it would be if the Blazers publicly announced that they supported family values!!! Or that they believed abortion was the taking of an innocent child's life? Oh, the furor! The calamity! The outrage!
     
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    Um....gay marriage is about family values
     
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    Is this really called for? I'm trying to have a respectful debate about the issue of involving politics in sports. I appreciate the people who have been willing to actually debate that topic and not make it specifically about gay marriage.

    I for one do not want to talk about politics in sports. There are so many avenues for open debate. We have so many news channels, open forums, and such. Why do sports need to be used as a mechanism to push a political agenda? Do we really need to infuse such hotly contested topics into something that should be a unifier? Wouldn't you rather sports be something that everyone can enjoy together without thinking about who the person next to you voted for, whether they're in favor of abortion, or if they support gay marriage? Why can't we all just be Blazers fans?
     
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    No one that you're replying to said they would reconsider their fanhood if the Blazers supported something they didn't agree with. Treaty_of_Batum actually pretty much said the opposite

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    I think it's ok for them to be political. Regardless of whether I agree with what they side with, I support their right to be that way. But, the same way I am with a politician, I would choose to "vote" with my money on an issue. If they came out against gay marriage, same way if a politician did, I wouldn't be happy about it. I wouldn't complain that they were being political, I'd complain about what side they were coming out for. That's not hypocrisy. I still support their right to be political. They can say whatever they want, and I can choose to go to games off of it if I want to.
     
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    Are you sure?

     
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    I think you're in the minority though. If the Blazers came out against gay marriage, I think a lot of people would be freaking out right now, and I suspect a few people would say that they will not follow the team until there was a change in management.
     
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    Um . . . not the way "family" has been defined for thousands of years in every culture around the world.
     
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    Oh, again, I'd be super annoyed at the position they were taking. But, again, support their right to take the position.
     
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    I completely get your point, I just think you'd be in a minority of people who actually supported their right to make the decision.
     
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    BNM said offended, that's not the same. And I was mostly talkong about the hypocrot thing, which none of these people would be even if they stopped supporting the team because they were anti human rights.

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    It's totally ok for Chik-fil-A or the republican party to be political, but I don't plan to give any money to those organizations because I disagree with them. That doesn't mean I think they should be apolitical, it just means I think they suck.

    That would be consistent, in the same way that you'd be consistent if you were just as happy with a loss as a win.

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    Maybe, maybe not. I think you would hear people pissed off if they came out against gay marriage. But I think the vast majority would be mad about the stance they were taking, and not that they publicly decided to take a stance. I think if they came out against it, we wouldn't be likely to see many people taking your stance, of saying hey, I'm against gay marriage, but keep politics out of it.
     
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    But I think that's because most people don't look at it the way that I am. They see the issue that they're passionate about, and they are happy or pissed off about the team taking a stance on it.

    I'm looking at it from a different angle. One that I wish more people would take, but it looks like I will be out in the cold on this one :lol:
     
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    Says the guy who can legally marry the person he wants to.

    Yes, sports should remain completely apolitical right after we listen to the national anthem, salute the flag and thank the veterans for their sacrifices.

    EDIT: But, no, the "boo hoo" part wasn't called for and I feel remorse.
     
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    Chik-fil-A does not specifically represent a city or region. They are a corporation that attempts to sell a product to many cities and many regions. While I think it's stupid for them to make a political statement, it doesn't send the same message as a pro team supporting an issue.

    The Blazers represent the city of Portland. It's on their jersey when they travel to other places. Good or bad, they're our team. They represent everyone that lives in this city. The players, the managers, and the owner might change, but the team is part of our city's sense of place.
     
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    Okay, so I can support gay marriage, I can vote for it, I can attend events that support it, and I can even attend a longtime gay friend's marriage..... but you can throw that in my face. Cool bro. Classy. Just keep on, keepin on.
     
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    You don't speak for everyone in Portland, plenty of people don't "identify" with the Blazers, or sports, at all. They certainly do not represent everyone in this city.
     

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