A civil discourse on the 2nd amendment

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  1. MARIS61

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  2. barfo

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    Wrong again, Denny.

    Here's a linky for ye.

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  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Until you put a gun to your head, the chances of you dying that way is zero.

    Linky stinky.
     
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    So what? Until someone murders you with a gun, the chances of you dying that way is zero. Shit, until anything happens the chances of it happening are zero, if you want to play that way.

    Wouldn't it be simpler to just say 'oh, I meant homicides when I said 'gun deaths''?

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  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    No. Suicide isn't chance. Getting hit by a stray bullet during a drive by shooting is chance.

    Wouldn't it be easier for you to admit people who want to die will find a way with or without guns.

    Your chances of dying from a gunshot went down by half, without banning guns. Fact.
     
  6. barfo

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    Just keep flailing away then. Homicide (which is what you quoted statistics for) is no more random than suicide.

    If presented with some evidence for that, I'd admit it. You've given none. I'm inclined to believe that since suicide is often an impulsive decision, it's likely that guns make it easier to carry out before the impulse passes.

    As long as the only type of gunshot we consider is someone else intentionally shooting me, yes. Fact, yet a fact insistently misrepresented by you.

    And, of course, that's due to a drop in violent crime of all types, and it doesn't mean that the rate will keep dropping or even stay the same. Or that the current rate is acceptable.

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  7. Denny Crane

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    Suicides of all kinds in Australia numbered ~2000 in 1996, the year they enacted their ban, and remained at ~2,000 since.

    You can go back and look at a not stinky linky I posted for your benefit.

    Your chance of being shot went down by one half, without a gun ban. Fact.

    There's no evidence Australia's going to have no crime or its crime rate will continue dropping or even stay the same.
     
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    Good to see you finally admitted defeat.

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  9. SlyPokerDog

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    I think you two should be this forum's first same sex marriage.

    Not saying either of you are gay, just that you argue like an old married couple.
     
  10. barfo

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    Only if we can get Shooter to officiate.

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    I'm afraid he might shoot the both of you and pronounce your marriage dead and buried.
     
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    Your chance goes up if you go in the woods near La Pine and might be mistake for a wild dog or a neighbor's horse.
     

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