[Official] The whipping boy thread

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  1. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Kid is fucking terrible.

    Should have drafted Henson.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I've lost hope with this kid. Hopefully he would just slow the fuck down. He rushes everything.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I think Meyers and TRob are more talented than Freeland but Freeland has put in a lot of hard work during the off season and it shows. So far in preseason Freeland has earned more playing time. Meyers and TRob have not.
     
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    Patience.

    Do I win?
     
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    Sigh. Guess not. :(
     
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    In an interview with Sports Illustrated's Lee Jenkins, Bryant bashed the AAU system and said he's glad he circumvented AAU ball by growing up in Italy.

    "I was lucky to grow up in Italy at a time when basketball in America was getting f----- up with AAU shuffling players through on strength and athleticism," Bryant said. "I missed all that, and instead I was taught extreme fundamentals: footwork, footwork, footwork, how to create space, how to handle the ball, how to protect the ball, how to shoot the ball."

    Bryant isn't the first current or former NBA star to come out as a critic of AAU. Charles Barkley has been railing on the system for years.

    "AAU is the worst thing to happen to college basketball ever," Barkley said in 2011. "I hate AAU more than anything in the world. These kids aren’t getting good coaching. They're playing too many games and not working on their game enough."

    Bryant's words also touch on the hotly debated issue of development in the United States versus development abroad. San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, a noted admirer of foreign systems, has said that in the United States players can become "coddled." Overseas, Popovich says, there is more of a focus on fundamentals.

    It should be noted that several of Bryant's formative years were spent in the United States -- he played high school basketball in Philadelphia. But by that time he says he already noticed a difference between himself and his American-bred opponents.

    "I wasn't the strongest kid at that camp," Bryant recalled of an ABCD summer camp he attended in 1994. "I wasn't the fastest. I wasn't the most athletic. I was probably the most skillful, but that didn't matter. It was all about the 360 windmill dunks."



    I very much agree with this
     
  8. magnifier661

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    T rob has shown he can produce and earn time. And he doesn't need to play big minutes. Leonard really hasn't shown much IMO. I think freeland should be our back up center and Leonard should get left overs
     
  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I'm not ready to write off anyone. Meyers is annoying as shit, but I think we will regret it if we give up on him this soon.
     
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    I'm not sure how much that applies. If I remember correctly Freeland didn't start playing basketball until his late teens. He was very raw when he played in Spain and his first season was unremarkable. I think he's just used to playing catch up skill wise with players who have been playing longer and working his ass off in the off season.
     
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    I'm not ready to give up on him either.
     
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    I loved how his post was presented. Your post below accentuated the positive and here comes Fez with the but...Let's address the big ol elephant in the room.

    I agree I think you have to be patient with Meyers
     
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    I wouldn't have regretted giving up on Luke Babbitt.
     
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    I still have hope - He's a long-term project.

    Though, I don't like that he's looking to shoot a long jumper about every time he touches the ball.

    He's 7'1" (and change) 260+ lbs. but he doesn't play anywhere close to his size.
     
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    100% this. He's jumping like he's playing against players 4" taller than him. He only needs to hold his arms up and only jump when the player jumps like normal centers do.

    It's so fucking frustrating man. A player can juke him out of position and fuck it up for the entire team trying to recover
     
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    No reason Freeland shouldn't get all of the backup 5 minutes.

    The less Leonard plays the better. I'd send him to Idaho.
     
  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Dude come on.... do not invoke that name around here. You should be ashamed of yourself.
     
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    Before I saw this thread...
     
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    Nate, I don't know what you mean.
    If you mean give him minutes to "develop" him, then I don't agree.
    If you mean don't trade him while he still has some trade value, then I don't agree.
    What does "give up on him" mean?

     
  20. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    He hasn't even started his second season. He has some tools that can be developed. The Blazers looked at him as a project coming in. Nobody thought he was going to be a polished star. If they had wanted someone that was polished and NBA-ready, they would have drafted Zeller. Leonard is a project in every sense of the word. If we deal him now, we could be having the same kind of regretful and whiny conversations about him that we have about Jermaine O'Neal.
     

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