Abortion is acceptable, but..

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  1. MarAzul

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    Naw, just pragmatic, It's a disgusting practice, but on the other hand it is mostly liberals doing it, so they are probably aborting more liberals
    Just gong along with the trend, pointing out the good.
     
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    This, and wrongful executions. You cant take that back, which leads to lawsuits, more court costs and dead innocent people. Life in prison is shitty enough punishment anyway imo.
     
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    Don't conservatives realize that abortions mean less poor people? Less people leeching your hard earned inheritance, its a no brainer
     
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    Its not about rich and poor. Babies aren't commodities with a numerical value on them.
     
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    Liberals use the same logic as well.

    "How can someone be "pro-life" but then support the death penalty" kind of schtick.
     
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    Please do not try to change the argument by nit picking terms. If I had intended to say pro choice, I would have. I was specific in the usage of pro abortion because that is how the program presented the topic. They were defending abortion clinics, and how unfair a new law in Texas was. It never brought choice into the conversation.
     
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    Actually life in prison costs 36k per year. If a prisoner lives 30 years in prison; that's over a million to keep him alive. Both still have long, drawn out court hearings.
     
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    But it doesn't support their argument, so they are ignoring it
     
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    Do you think it was alright for hitler to massacre Jews? Or maybe you agree with the sirians killing what they believe to be the lessor of the species?
     
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    Keeping someone on death row cost 2 or 3 times that. (I think I read an extra $70k per year). Also many mandatory appeals need to happen before the death sentence is carried out, that additional court time is avoided in life without parole convictions. When its all said and done it costs millions more to kill someone than to let them rot in jail. That also doesn't count wrongful executions, that sill happen more than you think, which cost much more in lawsuits, payouts, court times and of course dead innocent people.
     
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    Word to the wise, whenever you bring up Hitler in an argument, you look incredibly out of touch with reality.
     
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    How are prochoice and proabortion different? Prochoice is not an indifferent term, as pro choice you may not make that decision yourself but you support everything you mentioned.
     
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    Wrongful? How many people have been executed that do not have multiple treks through the Justice/incarceration system?
     
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    Ha! It is very amusing to see you lecture anyone on reality.
     
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    :lol:

    Just common sense man, if poor people are such a burden and a leech, abortions mean less of them. Gotta give a little to get a little.
     
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    here is a list of 142 people who were exonerated after having received the death penalty sentence. . Considering that was just those who were able to prove their claimed innocence I think it's safe to assume many more have been put to death for crimes they did not commit.

    For me, that's the issue I have, the innocent put to death. Added issues are the higher cost, the bigoted application of death penalty sentences, and the moral issue of state sanctioned killing, but al of those topics are less clear cut than simply we shouldn't be killing anyone if we can't be certain who is truly guilty of the crime.

    Abortion, I pretty much stay away from this topic. I am pro choice because I don't think the state should be making these decisions. I don't go much deeper than that.
     
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    Why is that? I mean in response to someone that would make a comment of killing a baby is okay because that baby will be poor, it seems pretty on point. So I think it hit the nail dead center.
     
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    But that concept doesn't make too much sense in this debate. The babies being aborted were innocent right? And you listed 144 incidents. Abortion trumps those incidents.
     
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    What do you think war is? Death for money. You would think this would be right up their conservative "alley"
     
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    I was being half facetious, and you go straight to the holocaust, kinda blowing your wad a little early bro :biglaugh:
     

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