Abortion is acceptable, but..

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  1. MarAzul

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    And a good deed it was. After due process they terminated his ass and that sir will never be called "Murder".
     
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    Both of these are wedge issues used by politicians to rally their troops and keep people looking away from the important matters.
     
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    What due process for Bin Laden? There was no trial. But you said there was no right to kill. But there is!

    Right to Abortion was given due process in a case called "Roe v. Wade."
     
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    Or not.
     
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    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/03/osama-bin-laden-killing-legality

     
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    We will see won't we?
     
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    There is no "creator's intent." It is a biological process. An unborn fetus that is less than 24 weeks is not a person. It is completely different than killing a living person. Do you remember what you were doing when you were 5 month old fetus?
     
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    Do you remember what you did when you were 1? Does that mean parents can kill their 1 year olds?
     
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    I have some faint recollection of being 1 year old. I also have pictures.
     
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    Not trying to ride you about your personal decision, more theoretical question. If killing a 'life" in the womb is just as bad as killing a 3 year old, is that just as bad as stopping a life from ever happening?
     
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    Oh there can be pictures of the baby in the womb too? Wanna see my children's ultra sounds?

    http://mentalfloss.com/article/12330/why-cant-you-remember-being-baby

     
  12. Denny Crane

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    I was in a fetal position loving my mom's womb, it's like yesterday for me. Only my mother's womb is under my desk and my fetal position isn't quite as comfortable.

    I understand the biological reasoning. Mags believes in a creator which makes me wonder how someone who believes in a creator can say it is OK to interfer with the creation of life. Doesn't that go against the creator's intent.
     
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    Not trying to defend my decision, but using a contraceptive is a little different in my eyes. The life-force hasn't been established yet, and even though protection truly is "playing God"; it's not the same as actually "killing". And this debate is "what is worth killing?"
     
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    You are aware that Theists aren't the only ones that are against abortion right?

    This is a debate on why is killing someone on death row wrong and killing a baby is okay?
     
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    The constitution says "no person shall be deprived of LIFE, Liberty, or Property" without due process. Due process is given. May be deprived of LIFE.

    I think the "liberals" are inconsistent in their entire philosophy, but it makes them happy somehow. I'm with ToB - pro death penalty, and pro choice. In both cases, due process is done.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targeted_killing

    And while you are trying to use another "straw man", lets take it to another level shall we? So when we were defending ourselves from attack from Germany, was it against the laws of the United States to bomb the city of Berlin?

    Oh and P.S. Osama wasn't an American Citizen, so he has no "civil rights"
     
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    Ben laden had a long tenuous process not in court, but congress and the executive branch.
    He was terminated by the Seals on orders from the Commander in Chief..

    The Roe vs Wade rule is total trash, read it. About as stupid as the ruling that the individual mandate is a tax but not a direct tax. We get people appointed to the court that are there simply to bollix the system.
     
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    I can't speak for other liberals, but my issue with the death penalty is the process, not the punishment. I'm fine killing those that deserve it, that includes foreign enemies, domestic terrorists, criminals, libertarians, and the unborn.

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