The official let's DUMP MEYERS thread

Then send him to the "D-league" and get as much time as he needs. Leonard lacks even the simplest fundamentals. Obviously in the "Big Leagues" this inefficiency becomes paramount. Let him learn in the D-League

 

We should trade him for Jermaine O'Neal.... then the circle of life will be complete.

 

Great analysis.

One point to consider with every one of your examples: Their improvement came with a change of teams.

 

No, we all remember it. It's just that some see that as an excuse - and some see it as the root of the problem!

 

I think my biggest beef necessarily isn't Leonard, but that Leonard is called to be our back-up. Freeland actually should be fighting with T. Rob for the back-up PF spot, with the occasional center duties. Problem is, he is our back-up center. T. Rob hasn't been producing right now at PF, so we have 2 developing players as a major back-up to our bigs. I wouldn't be crying all game and after if we had a player like Jerm to give us solid production. So as much as I beef about Leonard, I just want a quality rotation. Obviously that quality is seriously lacking right now.

 

Tristan Thompson and Earl Clark and I think are playing for the same team. But here is another example of a big man turning it around for the same team:

2012 Stats: 3.6 points, 3.1 rebounds, 1.5 blocks, 45.7 FG%

2013 Stats: 8.5 points, 8.5 rebounds, 3.2 blocks, 52.5 FG%

It's hard to justify having a stone-hands big man playing in the post while shooting just 45 percent from the floor and committing a foul once every five minutes.

That's why seeing Larry Sanders come out this season and turn into a viable starting center, playing well enough offensively so that we can see just how good he is defensively, is so impressive.

Not only has he completely bumped up his offensive game to the point that he can actually be relied upon to put a bucket in every once in a while, but he's also cut down on his fouling so that he's committing a foul once every seven minutes, instead of five.

Oh, and I suppose it's important to mention here that he's also leading the league in blocks per game. Which one of you saw that coming?

 

Oh you're right.

How much of this is just a result of increased minutes? Is there a jump in the per 36 production?

 

Phooey. PG is the toughest position to learn.

That's what made Lillard so freaking impressive.

 

Meyers is really bad at basketball. He probably won't get much better if this is as good as he's gotten in 21 years.

He should not be playing at all, but unless we sign or trade for someone better, he'll be suiting up every game.

 

We must have totally different memories of Jermaine. He was a talented up and comer when he was here but stuck behind Brian Grant, Sabonis, and Rasheed Wallace. The Blazers only roadblock to a title was Shaq and Dale Davis had played him as well as anyone in the finals. I still don’t think Jermaine would’ve faired better defending Shaq than Dale. The Blazers were mortgaging the future for the best players they could get to play today. We had just resigned Jermaine to a 4 year contract so management obviously thought very highly of him. The chance came to acquire an all-star so the team decided to take that deal. Jermaine was thought of very highly by fans and management of the Blazers during all 4 of his years here. Jermaine hustled on the court and showed glimpses of something special. Meyers has never displayed similar potential.

 

Yes, we do have completely different memories of Jermaine. I remember Jermaine playing like shit any time he actually got on the floor. We couldn't afford to put up with his growing pains because we were title contenders and we had Sheed and Grant.

 

Word. I was rooting for him big time but remember the same thing. Very similar feeling to Meyers in how painful it was to watch him.

Lol, kinda ironic coming from a 21 year old yourself. You do realize he's only played center for a handful of years right?

 

How is it ironic? I've played center less than Meyers, but if I was 7'1", I'd be a lot better at it than he is. He's a decent athlete (not even the best in his class), but he's not good at basketball and he just doesn't seem able to comprehend how to learn and get better. He's stupid and not very talented, but he's semi athletic so he'll get better for sure!

 

That's possible. I don't follow these players closely. I tried to pick players that some were ready to give up on and they managed to turn their careers around. If they did it because they got the opportunity, then Leonard can't really be put in that category. But if they turned it around based on their play got better, then maybe it can happen to Leonard?

 

Again, that doesn't have to be done now.

Please list the players that could be obtained for that trade exemption that have more Net Present Value than Meyers.

 

I think we should dump Williams. He's a skinny Raymond Felton.

 

I am not ready to do that until he dribbles off his foot several times.

 

What are you basing this on? Semi-athletic? Really? LOL

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The guy is awkward on the floor and very lost. What really concerns me is rebounding and defense is really not THAT hard IMO it's more effort and will, yet he shys away from everything.

 

Again guys, he's played 16 minutes this year - 11 of them against the best center in the league. We might want a slightly larger sample size before we start talking about cutting him.

And, just to illustrate the dangers of a small sample size: Right now Meyers Leonard has PER = 16.2 and a WS/48 of 0.220, highest on the team. But, since it's only been 16 minutes, I will hold off on submitting my write in ballot for him to make the All-Star team until he's played a little more.

BNM