Would Atlanta be okay with sending them, batum, Leonard, claver and Barton for Horford? They could tank and grab a top 5 pick, hopefully getting wiggins in the sweepstakes If we could somehow manage to pull this off, Aldridge, horford, Lopez, T. Rob and Freeland would be a formidable front court. It would strengthen our depth as well, allowing T. Rob to develop. Horford could slide to PF, if god forbid, Aldridge gets injured.
The dynamic of the team changes so much with this move. If we absolutely need him, then I think we need to do it without Batum. Replace him with CJ
We need a player to match salaries. Either batum or Matthews needs to be used. I picked Batum because I think wright is a decent starting SF. When CJ comes back, I could see him totally be able to start at SG after a month or two. When that time comes, Matthews could slide to starting SF.
What are you talking about? How in the fuck is this considered a "blow up"? There is just one player that is in our current rotation. Also, I've been promoting this deal for quite some time, even during the win streak.
Hmm..I like Horford, but a couple of things come to mind.. Hawks are 8 and 8 at the moment with designs to make the playoffs at this point. Nic just does so much..I think we as Blazers fans over value him because of that. To think that Nic, a small forward/shooting guard could yield a dominate center is a reach. Keep working it, Brother, I like how you are thinking on the "Big" picture.
How does trading batum for Horford not make sense? Horford is a team player, that would give us a dominate 1-2 punch at center. Horford and Lopez could average 25-30 minutes each, with Horford having a bit of burn at PF. Aldridge would get his normal 35+ a game. Freeland would get around 6 a game. T. Rob would get burn on injuries, garbage or foul trouble. Add 96 minutes between center and power forward. Aldridge = 35, Lopez = 25, horford = 30, Freeland = 6
I think Horford is the main reason why they are winning. I think Batum isn't good enough to keep them winning. Anyway, just throwing an idea out there...
You are trading a third of our team, and one of our "big three." That's a pretty drastic change after one loss.
When proposing deals. I think we need to remember the reasons why were successful. What about the game is the team good at? And if you were to move one piece would we continue to be good in the same manner. I like Horford and probably would go to great lengths to get him but if we made that move you suggested, would we be better? I think we would be worse. Because Nic fits into Stotts system like a glove. He can pull up for the three at any moment. He can pass and move the ball. He's a runner and great in open court. And suddenly, with Horford, Stotts would be scrambling to come up with something that would allow him to fit. Which I think in the end would set the team back in terms of wins this season.
I do think this is going to be one of the most interesting seasons at the trade deadline. Many teams at that point that now have the intent of making the play offs will start hunting for lottery balls driven by the quality of this draft class. If you think Black Friday has bargins, look out!
How many on that third is playing during this win streak? Yep, just one player! And this has nothing to do with the loss. This has everything to do with moving the needle. I don't know why you keep bringing up "after one loss", when I've been advocating this for at least a year now. It's not like I'm trying to use the loss as an excuse. In fact, the Asik for Lopez idea I shot down because it's a lateral move. Anyone in here that thinks Horford for Batum would make us worse is highly over valuing batum. Oh did I forget to mention that Horford and Aldridge both expire in 2 years? Doesn't this also go in line with Olshey's flexibility concept?
I'd say no. I'm beginning to realize that middle-of-the-road players tend to do very well here. And by that I mean, getting a Lopez. We don't have to give an arm and a leg for a big time guy, when we can give a little less and get a guy that's going to fit our system. But with this team, I'm under the impression that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I like Horford, a lot. But, you also have to think, in the east you have to tank BIG time. I mean, you have Brooklyn, New York, a whole host of teams that are going to fight for those coveted 9-16 slots for lottery court advantage. So if you're going to tank, you're going to have to tank with a passion.
I think we'd absolutely be better. Especially since wright is a good player. It's not like he's some low end back up. Also, this move also frees up a bunch of playing time for CJ, since Matthews can move to SF.
So, cut of your nose to spite your face? I just don't like the fit for what Atlanta would expect in return. I do like Horford, just not enough to blow up the team.
I'm still wanting a reason how giving up one starter and a bunch of players that play zero minutes on the season is "blowing up" this team?
Ask yourself what Horford does. Ask yourself what Batum does. What does Horford do that Batum cannot do, and vice versa?
