Official season is over and trade deadline thread

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  1. dumpstralmannow

    dumpstralmannow Active Member

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    Said it 100 times. 3rd and 4th line players are too soft, too lazy and aren't hard to play against. Defense is soft. Second line center is not good enough. Second line center you either have to draft, trade for or sign as a UFA. Neither will be easy to do. The role players can be fixed pretty easily by renting Cally, Girardi, Boyle and Brassard.
     
  2. Ranger71

    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

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    Its pretty nuch a major makeover on the way when you can count the keepers on one hand. HL CK RN DS and RMc. Miller who knows id use him in the right deal.
     
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    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Actually we already have a good 2nd line center. His name is Derek Stepan. It's a 1st line center that's going to be difficult to get.
     
  4. dumpstralmannow

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    The saddest part is that any die hard Rangers fan will continue to watch this crappy team until they are dead. Thus, why we need to bitch because we will still watch the games. Even when they are down 3-0, turn the channel, you find yourself daring to believe in these imbeciles and you switch back every 5 minutes to see if they finally don't suck any longer.
     
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    How true Dump. Sad, but true.
     
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    Chuck, I respect your view, but disagree for a couple or reasons. No team has ever won the cup this way. A #5 pick usually doesn't have an impact right away. Sather's track record of smart FA signings is pitifully bad, but now were supposed to expect he'll be like 6 for 6 in one single year. He hasn't made 6 good signings in 15 years. It won't work.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Agree to disagree. See you in 2018 I guess 62. Might as well turn the Rangers off until then if we go your route. I just hope we can find a goalie, because with your plan Hank will be 37, and we'll need a new goalie as well.

    Pop back in then and we'll see if we can win that cup in 2018.
     
  8. chuckd3534

    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Bottom line is we are NOT doing some big re-build here, whether you or anyone thinks we should or not...won't happen. You don't re-sign Hank for what we did. Add Nash at 7.8 per. Re-sign McDonagh for what we did. You don't do all that to re-build for 3 or 4 years. NOT HAPPENING.

    They will take a good pick this summer, combined with a ton of cap space, and a good core and try and add the pieces we need around that to win big. That is the formula I believe they had in mind the minute they hired AV and saw the cap coming down 6 mill this season.

    Is what it is, but that's the "plan" we are on. Let's hope they make the right moves to finish off the team this summer. That is where we should all be at mentally right now.
     
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    1962 has never liked Nash. He hasn't been good enough and hasn't been as good as I thought but this team would not be any better with Dubinsky and AA in lineup instead of Nash. He missed almost 20 games and still will likely score 25 goals but I agree its not good enough. He needs to be better. But this team has pieces to improve if they drop half the roster which is dead weight. The good news is they are in a position to do that. The bad news is the same GM who has gotten 1 ECF in 13 years will be the one making the decisions and that just sucks. Be depressed about that, not about the sky is falling this team has no talent.

    The team over the next couple of years can be in pretty good shape. Lundqvist despite his problems the first 35 games is still a top 3 goalie. Elite players have bad years. The problem is he did it in a year where the roster is garbage because we have a bunch of guys designed to play a Torts grind it out style.
     
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    This thread isn't about Nash, but there is not one thing I've said about him you could say I've been wrong about. This thread is about what happens from here with the team. Chuck, they'll probably go your way because Sather isn't leaving anytime soon. When I say total rebuild, that includes Sather. There is no reason it has to take your arbitrary 5 years. Could be done in 2-3 if done right. You think the man who has failed at virtually every FA singing he's made is suddenly going 6 for 6. Dream on. They'll do it your way, the team will continue to flounder, maybe eke into the playoffs, win a round if they're lucky, and whoop de dam do. I want to win a cup. So you think you'll see me in 2018? Your way, I'll see you never, because the proven to fail every time way of trying to buy a cup will fail again like it has every time before. Hope you enjoy dreamland, because that is where you continue to stay. For those of us in reality world, buying a cup never has and never will work, doubly so with Glen making the moves.
     
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    If we make the right moves this summer it can be done 62. The issue I see with what you are saying, besides the fact that we will be punting on the next 2 or 3 seasons which will never happen, is you assume the wrong moves will be made this summer. I have to hope we make the right moves to get this team finished off correctly.

    Now we agree Sather is a joke, and should be gone yesterday, but I am saying what they will do CAN be done, if we make the right moves this summer. Will Sather make the right moves to get it done correctly??? Unlikely based on his terrible record here, but it can be done, and that is the way we wil go for better or worse.
     
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    This team sucks with at least 6 positions. That is all I know.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, and we can fix it this summer, BUT we need to make the right moves. They are out there, but will we do it correctly???
     
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    I think they should make that Franson deal this week, even if it means throwing in a good prospect with DZ. Franson has a decent ceiling.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Here's a good one from December 2013...you know the year we made the SCF.

    And I quote dump:

    This year is over. I don't want to hear from the optimists in our fan base. The Rangers should be one of the most interesting sellers in recent memory at the deadline.

    I won't get on you for this one dump, because up to 2013/2014 this team didn't really give us a lot of hope. Sather didn't really give us a lot of hope to believe. So the point of this thread is not to get on you, but simply to point out AGAIN we need to stop giving up in December...as you do every season...when there is a TON of hockey to play.

    Have some belief in this team to get better as the season progresses...just like they have pretty much every season the past 4 seasons.
     
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    Please wake me when you are done with your child like stupidity of bringing up old threads and alert the board when the last time the Rangers won the cup was . I don't believe they have won the cup in over 20 years now. Yet, you continue to make it seem like they have accomplished something. Dumbass.
     
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    Wake me up when you are done giving up in December like you do every year. You don't learn...and that is scary.

    Look...I don't want to get into nonsense with you. Truthfully you do what you need to do bro. But honestly look at your posts every December. They are literally the exact same threads in 13, 14, and 15...come on man...have some belief in this team and stop jumping ship in December.

    That's why I bumped these, not to call you out or start a back and forth. I don't care about that. I know you love that stuff and love name calling, my point is believe in this team and learn from the past.
     
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    TO shouldn't be busy Al.
     
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