Can Asik play the 4?

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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I said in the rumored deal thread that him being able to play the 4 or not is another discussion, so I thought I would start that.

    In my opinion, we need a vet who can play both spots well
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    He could if we had a stretch 5. I don't know really.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    We don't though. We have Lopez.

    So I guess I am asking, can Lopez and Asik play together?

    Same question for those that want Hawes. Hawes is a stretch guy on offense, but can he defend 4's?
     
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    Strenuus Well-Known Member

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    Eh... It'd be like having a better Freeland on the team. No offense really.
     
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    I am def. for hawes... more for his stretching the floor abilities... his defense isn't the greatest, but it is passable.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    If they traded Freeland (and I'm assuming Meyers), he'd have to. I think he could.

    The team would need a 2nd big man (or Robinson to improve quickly).
     
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    I guess the real question is can Asik play with Freeland or Lopez for 10 minutes a game? I'm sure it wouldn't be worse than Leonard.

    Lopez could drop down to 28 minutes a game, giving Asik the opportunity to get 20 minutes at 5. Maybe another 8 minutes at 4?
     
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    Talk about Mo having to jack up a ton of shots if that is the case!
     
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    It would be really interesting to see a Lopez/Asik front line. Talk about rebounding!!!!
     
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    Very true.

    Asik/Wright/Mo/CJ our second unit? That's not terrible.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    CJ truly is our missing piece. That is of course he can play to his advertise. He's like a Lillard-light! But you put Two great rebounders in, then shit gets real quick!
     
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    We have a stretch 4 in Aldridge; could Asik play half of his minutes with Aldridge? Use him like we use Mo Williams, kind of. I gotta think how this would work....
     
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    At the very least, CJ is our measuring stick to see what we do at the deadline. I still think we get a back up defensive big. We are in win now mode.

    If we got A lopez/Asik frontcourt even for 10 minutes on our second unit, that will be huge. Even Asik/Freeland I think could work (Asik at the 5, Freeland at the 4).

    The big difference is that Lopez is a team player and will bring Asik in and tell him to get his shit straight and rebound for the team. I think that's a big reason why Asik and Howard (underneath it all) didn't work.
     
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    I thought the whole reason for Asik being shopped is he can't play effectively with Howard on the court.

    I don't see Hoston sending Asik anywhere but the east. OKC, SA, Clips and the Blazers could all use Asik, but if Houston is in win now mentality, they don't trade Asik to a contending team in the west.
     
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    I nominate Taj Gibson. He would be a great fit next to Leonard and could play next to Freeland. Might be able to sell the blazers on something like Gibson for Robinson
     
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    I would shit egg rolls if Chicago did this. Taj would be a great addition with playoff experience. His age would work out well for this team as well.

    There really isn't a player in Chicago that is "untouchable", but I doubt they would like T rob for Taj
     
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    Taj would be very good as an active backup '4' but I don't think he has much of an outside game which is the issue with T-Rob. Now he is a much more accomplished player and used to being an impact guy off the bench but I'm wondering if he would fit the offense....haven't seen enough of his game to know for sure.

    He's tremendous on help defense and does a good job of crashing the boards and keeping plays alive.

    FWIW, Freeland/Meyers combined for 15 (25%) of the Blazers rebounds against the Clippers and as Meyers gets more comfortable, the kid does have a nice offensive touch. Interesting to see him subbing for Aldridge instead of Lopez and going 'Twin Towers' for a small stretch.

    :matrix:
     
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    This question was emphatically answered by the Rockets early this season.
     
  19. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    To clear up something from earlier (that was in the podcast that got hit with "technical difficulties--thanks, SouthEast! ;) ):

    We are a non-taxpaying team, and if we were just bringing back Asik his 8.3M cap hold would be below the 9.8M threshold, so we could take back 150% of what we send out. Since Asik's hold is $8,374,646, we have to at least send out $5,516,431.

    Notable "tradeable" Blazer salaries:
    Lopez 5,904,261
    Robinson 3,526,440
    Wright 3,000,000
    Freeland 2,897,976
    Mo 2,652,000
    McCollum 2,316,720
    Leonard 2,222,160
    Claver 1,330,000
    Crabbe 825,000
    Will Barton 788,872
     
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    And the trade restriction on Robinson is b/c of the rule outlined in Coon's CBA #98
    Even though the trade was agreed to "last" season (June 30), since it was for cap space, the trade became official on July 10. So Robinson can't be traded back to HOU until next summer, and even if we waive him (for whatever reason), HOU can't resign him.
     

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