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  1. Hammerojustice

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    Actually, no, it isn't. 59 is right... you have failed to answer a simple question. you painted a picture for him that he didn't actually paint...
     
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    Can you possibly answer a question???? and it isn't racism. you have completely and utterly failed to show he is a racist
     
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    No one was singing the blues.

    Pre-entitlement (whatever that means), pre-welfare.

    That would be Jim Crow South.

    No other way to interpret it.
     
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    He did... but he didn't say pre-civil-rights... they are two entirely different things... which you are not grasping.... people were happier working for a roof over their heads and food on their tables than having it just given to you (continually)... nothing wrong with that
     
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    yup
     
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    Entitlements and welfare were civil rights.

    They weren't happier, that's beyond absurd. Like holocaust denial.

    I'm not grasping. The guy was in the midst of ranting about all the people he didn't like, they are all doing evil things!
     
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    no one denied the photos were from then... but they weren't Phil's words... they weren't what Phil was talking about, they weren't anywhere closely related to what Phil said...
     
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    Not even close.... welfare is an entitlement, food stamps are an entitlement, Government Subsidized Housing is an entitlement, giving someone something that they didn't earn is an entitlement... and no, it doesn't mean Jim Crow era... they are separate items... how can you not see that????

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entitlement
     
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    actually, all you are doing is grasping... what happened (segregation) was wrong. entitlements and welfare aren't right though. At some point, someone needs to work to provide for themselves... people are happier when they work for and earn something than they are if they do nothing and just get handed stuff...

    Phil NEVER said anywhere that they were happier about everything under the sun back then... he saw them singing, they were godly and they were happier...
     
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    They were what he was talking about. His use of picking cotton also is a stereotype. They were happy, singing, working the fields, with all the fried chicken and watermelon they could eat!

    Again, I'm not alone in seeing his bigotry and racism.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/this-is-why-phil-robertson-is-wrong-about-gays-2013-12

    His apologists may be even worse.
     
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    The point Denny is trying to make is that he may have known a few that were happy, content and treated fairly...but at the same time the picture he ia painting would make it appear that was the norm. I would compare it to a German say that the Jews were a happy bunch during to 40's in Germany
    You just wouldn't expect anyone to say something like that as if he lived in a financial where nothing bad ever happened to them.

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    His own comments called himself white trash and working in the dame fields with African Americans like it was their choice to work in a heavy physically intense work atmosphere.

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    he literally picked cotton in the fields... so that is what he was referencing... not saying everyone was... again, you fail to prove anything
     
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    did he work in the fields with them, yes... did he call himself white trash, yes... where, though, did he say they were there (or even imply) that they were there by choice? he didn't. he never implied it, he never said it.
     
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    but he didn't say ALL... the people he worked with were singing and happy and godly... sorry.. try again
     
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    I don't have to try again. I'm not out to change your opinion. I'm just telling you how a portion of members felt when reading about this.

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    "That Anne Frank led a peaceful life hiding in the attic. " Don't you think some people would find that statement offensive?

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    ok, but you are chastising him for something he didn't actually say or imply... you are feeling he was offensive by your adding things into his words which weren't there...
     
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    and to clarify, you/your was referring to all of you
     
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    I never saw his show. Only saw his picture on TV a few times and paid him no mind.

    So he says all these things and I see videos of him and read the words in question.

    I have no agenda against him. I even tend toward conservative viewpoints on many things and can't stand most "liberals."

    Yet I cannot deny what I see from him. His emphasis of selected parts of one religion's two thousand year old book with the intent to harm people who go nowhere near him, is revolting.

    I'm going to heaven and you're not because you take being evil to new heights. I'm superior to you!

    The racism is not even subtle.
     
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