California Grants Law License to Immigrant

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So you are saying aliens should treat the immigration laws like drivers treat speed limits: ignore them unless there is a cop in sight.

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  2. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So you are not really FromWA?

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  3. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    I was BornInPOR, lived #alloverthedamnplace, and was "FromWA" when I started posting here. But, while I was born here, I'm not just a citizen b/c I was born here.
     
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    I think so. It wasn't my argument at stake. ;)
     
  6. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Really? It's inhumane to think of our country as a giant family home? Borders are inhumane? Tell me what you think would happen if tomorrow the government said anyone who wanted to come here could do so immediately.

    I'll tell you what would happen, it would be like a large scale version of the Walmart welfare limit fiasco that happened recently.

    Just tell me where the limits are of people getting what they want just because. I only live here because I was born here, well Paris Hilton is only rich because she was born that way. NEXT time she is in Vegas I'll make sure I steal her Bentley...it's inhumane that I drive a Focus so fuck the law.
     
  7. BLAZER PROPHET

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    He came here an olive picker and obviously learned the language well enough to get through law school.

    I have no problems with all this.
     
  8. TradeNurkicNow

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  9. donkiez

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    I dont think anyone has advocated throwing our immigaration doors open for everyone to come here immediatly. That is obviously as poor of a plan as building a giant fence to keep people out.

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  10. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    If the law is evil or inhumane what would be the alternative? As far as I know Mexico has beautiful land and natural resources....so make Mexico better.
     
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    Okay, let's go back in time and repeal NAFTA
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Fine with me. So Mexico was a first rate superpower kickass country before Nafta? I get oem VW parts made in Mexico and they are quite inferior to German made parts.Fukin Nazis can't even get em to do good work.
     
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    How about our war on drugs while we are at it?
     
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    If you don't understand the issue just say so instead of spewing hyperbole. Or at least make your hyperbole more obvious.
     
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    That too.
     
  16. bodyman5000 and 1

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    What's the issue there genius? Explain how a trade agreement we apparently forced on them ruined their country. Explain how this agreement from the 90s is responsible for illegal immigrants coming here by the millions. I know that we send tons of meat and corn to them now. They don't want to eat imported food? Me either. They can cut off our corn and raise the price of theirs. They just won't have enough...not my problem.


    Oh wait, that's the excuse you are making. We ruined their corn prices right? So they had to move here and get free shit? Well, I never liked Nafta in the first place. I guess this kinda reinforces my point. Mexico had other resources besides the ability to grow corn. My gramps grew kickass corn in his garden, not exactly something I would want a whole economy to depend on.


    That is the issue right because some of my illegal buddies said something about farming not paying anymore. Living in Vegas I have befriended more illegals than there are regular posters on this board. As a group they are generally hard working and quite hilarious. I like them almost without exception.
     
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    I don't even know where to start here, so I won't. Read up on the free trade agreements between the first world and developing countries.
     
  18. Denny Crane

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    I think NAFTA has been rather successful.

    During its time in effect, quite a few factories have been built in Mexico providing good paying jobs. The export of US goods to Mexico has risen, which means the standard of living in Mexico has to have risen in proportion. We have a trade deficit of $50B+ with Mexico, all of that money boosts their GDP and allows them to invest. Mexico's own GDP has grown faster than the USA's since NAFTA was enacted.

    I don't think a whole lot of jobs moved to Mexico as Perot warned. The "made in china" stamped on everything from clothing to electronics to durable goods seems to indicate China (and India, too) is where the bulk of manufacturing jobs are.

    Mexico is just a terribly poor nation. Their GDP is about $2T and their population is 121M. That's roughly $9,700 per person, compared to about $50,000 per person in the USA. The money isn't divided evenly per person, though. A good job in most places in Mexico can pay $300/month. You try and live on that.

    The wall we're building and the war on drugs has turned Mexico into a gangland. The economic incentives of the war on drugs (higher drug prices, massive profits) work in the gangs' favor. The wall and increased presence of armed border patrol has turned one of the longest peaceful borders into a battle zone.

    I'm not getting the open borders thing being a disaster. For the most part, those who want to cross our borders without going through customs are getting through.

    Yet, we can see from the data that 90% of Mexicans stay in Mexico. There's no rush for the border as fear mongers claim. I mean, do the math: 120M population in Mexico, 12M "illegal" immigrants total, most from Mexico.
     
  19. MARIS61

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    Wrong. In any other country he would be either deported or imprisoned. He's a liar and a cheat, and because California aids and abets his criminal behaviour some far more honest and deserving soul is robbed of the opportunity to legally become an American.

    He is no more admirable than any other common thief.
     
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