Carmelo Has Bulls, Clippers, Lakers On Short List If He Leaves Knicks

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  1. truebluefan

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    Carmelo Anthony could be motivated by the treatment of Stephon Marbury by both the New York Knicks' organization and fans to leave the team in free agency.

    Marbury sat four rows behind the Knicks' bench on Christmas Day, his first visit to Madison Square Garden in three years.

    “He saw Marbury get heckled by some fans on Christmas,’’ one source told The Post. “He doesn’t want to be the next Marbury. He’s very sensitive.”

    If the Knicks continue to spiral, Anthony will be the face of those troubles regardless of his production.

    The Los Angeles Lakers, Los Angeles Clippers and Chicago Bulls are on his short list, according to a source. The Lakers have cap space, but a reunion with Mike D'Antoni would be unappealing.

    The Clippers would need to acquire Anthony via a trade.

    Anthony's preference is to remain with the Knicks if he sees a solid plan in place.

    Partial source http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...pers-Lakers-On-Short-List-If-He-Leaves-Knicks
    Read more http://nypost.com/2014/01/01/malice-toward-marbury-could-affect-melos-decision-to-re-sign/
     
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    Does anyone think Rose and Melo would struggle playing alongside each other?
     
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    Well, there's two answers to that question.

    Rose has to actually play in games for it to be an issue. ;)

    And if LeBron and Wade can play alongside one another in Miami (with Bosh, too), then why couldn't Rose and Melo?

    Melo's usg% would have to come down from 30% to 29%.
     
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    So take a guess without looking:

    --How many seasons ago did Carmelo Anthony have the highest PER of his career (24.8)?

    --How many seasons ago did Carmelo Anthony average the second most points per game of his career (28.7)? Mind you, he did this on a decent 44.9%/37.9%/83% splits.
     
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    Not sure, but what was his team's record when he posted those numbers?
     
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    54-28 and the team won it's division and won one playoff series.
     
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    54-28? Did the Knicks ever get past the world of shit Isaiah Thomas left them in?

    54 wins is pretty good, right? Who were his teammates?
     
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    A giant heaping pile of shit and Tyson Chandler:

    7 Carmelo Anthony PF 6-8 230 May 29, 1984 9 Syracuse University
    42 Earl Barron C 7-0 245 August 14, 1981 6 University of Memphis
    11 Ronnie Brewer SF 6-7 220 March 20, 1985 6 University of Arkansas
    23 Marcus Camby PF 6-11 220 March 22, 1974 16 University of Massachusetts Amherst
    6 Tyson Chandler C 7-1 235 October 2, 1982 11
    14 Chris Copeland PF 6-9 235 March 17, 1984 R University of Colorado
    2 Raymond Felton PG 6-1 198 June 26, 1984 7 University of North Carolina
    54 Solomon Jones PF 6-10 230 July 16, 1984 6 University of South Florida
    5 Jason Kidd SG 6-4 205 March 23, 1973 18 University of California
    3 Kenyon Martin C 6-9 234 December 30, 1977 12 University of Cincinnati
    16 Steve Novak SF 6-10 220 June 13, 1983 6 Marquette University
    9 Pablo Prigioni PG 6-3 180 May 17, 1977 R
    55 Quentin Richardson SF 6-6 223 April 13, 1980 12 DePaul University
    21 Iman Shumpert SG 6-5 212 June 26, 1990 1 Georgia Institute of Technology
    8 J.R. Smith SG 6-6 220 September 9, 1985 8
    1 Amar'e Stoudemire PF 6-10 245 November 16, 1982 10
    40 Kurt Thomas PF 6-9 230 October 4, 1972 17 Texas Christian University
    36 Rasheed Wallace C 6-10 225 September 17, 1974 15 University of North Carolina
    4 James White
     
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    Earl Barron is both an Earl and a Baron, right?

    So what's the question about Melo?

    I think he's been maybe 2nd best SF his entire career.

    Only question I'd have is his age.
     
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    This was last season, by the way. He was .2 ppg off his career high, had his career high in PER and shot very well from the field. That made me look at him differently. I've been freaked out by the fact that he's now playing as an undersized power forward and has looked at times like he's three steps from dead. Time to catch up on a little NYK basketball. (Trying not to poke eyes out.)
     
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    http://nypost.com/2014/01/01/malice-toward-marbury-could-affect-melos-decision-to-re-sign/

    Interesting what the attraction for Melo is. Derrick Rose and Tom Thibodeau are the two elite level talents this organization has. Adding Melo would be a third, although his lack of playoff success this far into his career is troubling, but he would not have to be #1 here, it could be a 1a and 1b relationship. Bulls should be all over this like stink on a filthy K9. The dry ballast of Deng contract, Boozer contract picks, whatever should be used for a "win now" fiesta, if that's what the goal of the org is.
     
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    I am all for getting Melo. Problem is, money. If Bulls wont sign Deng art #14 mill a year, imagine getting Melo at $22-24 mill a year. We will need to gut the team.

    I think Rose and Melo would be nice indeed! He gives us something this team needs. Scoring and scoring in bunches.
     
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    You mean, LaLa's told him he could go to CHI or LAL if he leaves NY. Got it.
     
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    I think we'd sign him as a UFA, no? His max salary would be on the order of $19.2M.

    To get that much cap space, we'd have to do transplant's all in strategy, where we renounce everyone possible and amnesty Boozer. I think he wrote that would get us to $25M under the cap, including cap holds. That would be enough to sign Melo and use over MLE to try and convince Mirotic to come over.

    If we trade for him, it'd be something like Deng and Taj for Melo (works: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lppjexs)?

    Amnesty Boozer and bring over Mirotic?

    We'd roll with Melo, Mirotic, Noah, Rose, and Jimmy.
     
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    If you get enough space to sign Melo, you don't get the MLEs....the most you'd have is the 2yr/5.6M room exception.
     
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    Right.

    $25M in cap space gets you $19.2M to sign Melo and another ~$6M to sign Mirotic. I meant MLE sized money.
     
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    ah, gotcha--nevermind, then. I'll go back to my hole.
     
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    Yeah, the debate here has been, "what if MLE isn't enough to get Mirotic to quit Euroball to play here?"

    Amnesty Boozer gets us under LT so we'd get just the MLE, might not be enough.

    So the all-in thing is a way to get "over MLE."

    See?
     
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    Yeah. I hadn't paid enough attention to Mirotic's situation--I thought it was an issue of the ownership being cheap (you don't still say "the Jerrys", do you? ;) ) and not giving Mirotic the MLE and go into tax range, rather than he'd want more.
     
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    Deng, Kirk and a pick for Melo?
     

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