Knicks open to trading Tyson Chandler, Blazers Interested

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  1. Reep

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    I forgot about his connection with Stotts. I wonder if that has any impact.
     
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    No. He's awesome backup for $6M. You want to play Chandler enough so he's ready for playoffs.
     
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    I like Lopez over Chandler at the end of games because he's a good foul shooter. Tyson's a career 64% FT shooter, and is a risk at the end of games. But the wastelands of mid-quarters? We need another anchor and Tyson is that guy.
     
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    Yeah, but he's also a defensive anchor when healthy. He will help stave off Durant/Harden/Westbrook wild drives to the rim and won't get as many fouls called on him because of his defensive reputation.
     
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    Any value to the thought process that keeping GSW from getting him is an important consideration here as well?
     
    PtldPlatypus, Jan 17, 2014
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    Absolutely. It was bad enough that they landed JO in the summer. Now with him out for the season, they can't get Chandler to play behind Bogut. We can't allow it to happen
     
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    Who do they have that they would trade for Chandler? They have to get at least 11 MIL going out I believe.
     
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    No, you do a deal if it helps make your team better. You don't make moves just to prevent other teams from making moves. Now if its a 15th man minimum salary for a month that will cost another team $10 million in cap space you'd have a point. But if we have to acquire a player with a $30 million salary it needs to help the team.
     
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    Is what we would get for what we would give up for Chandler at $14MM that much more than what we would get out of Hawes for so much less?

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    Good point, they would have to break up their starting 5 which is not happening.
     
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    ...assuming that Philly would give us Hawes for what we would want to send them...
     
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    Of course but I'm just looking at the amount of production for the cost in salary.

    ................Pts..Rebs...Asts...Blks...FG%...FT%...3pt%..Mins
    Chandler...7.9....7.5....1.3.....1.5... .567.. .617.. .000....26.7
    Hawes......14.4...8.7....3.5.....1.4... .488.. .775.. .437....32.1

    I think Chandler would change more shots even though their block rates are similar. Obviously Hawes has a huge advantage on the offensive end and even though his 3pt shooting is elite for a big man, it's his passing that intrigues me.

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    Hawes plays in a gimmick offense that has such a high pace it increases players stats and increases their efficiency. The team gives up a lot of points and losses by design. There is a reason Hawes, Thaddeus, and Turner are all having career years in both raw numbers and efficiency yet the team sucks.

    Defensive effect is very hard to measure statistically. Chandler is great in that regard, and you won't be able to find numbers to back it up.
     
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    Yes he does but shooting .437 from '3' is not gimmick no matter what the pace. Also, assists from a big man are not fast-break oriented so those are legit as well. his rebounding numbers and points certainly are a bit elevated.

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    I like Freeland too, but Portland does that without blinking. New York on the other hand...
     
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    Really too much considering Meyers has been a bust and we got Robinson on the cheap the deal would be a steal for a former All Star, DPOY, 3x All NBA Def, Olympic Gold Medal Winner and NBA Champion. His 14 million dollar contract will be worth a fortune next year if he does not work out.

    Although we might need to get Philly involved since they have cap space and the Knicks do not have roster space for 4 players.
     
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    It saves them over $4.5 mil cash and another over $4.5 mil luxury tax. If they are over the tax for multiple years in a row there are some stiff penalties (BrianWA would know). The players we'd be giving them aren't horrible, they'd save $, Shrug.
     
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    It also helps them tank.
     
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