It doesn't matter what religion you say you are. Most religions are the same. They're all the same in the fact that they are based on superstition and lies. Christianity and Islam are very closely related religions. Muslims are religious. Catholics are religious. You are religious. Theres hardly a difference to me. When Christians speak ill of other religions, I feel they are furthering my point: Religion sucks. Sent from my banana using Tapatalk 4
Muslims aren't blowing shit up because they are Muslim. Every conflict and every act of terror is political. Where was the unrelenting violence during the Ottoman era?
as a matter of fact, yes. Look into the history of the Roman Empire. The craziest peoples they ever encountered were those, and that says a lot considering the company.
That doesn't mean anything. The Ottomans didn't become an empire until the 14th century, and by then the Eastern Roman empire was well into decline, a mere two centuries before its collapse. So, they fought. There was war. This was nothing new. My point is that when there is peace, happiness and prosperity, Islam acts as any other religion would. And when there is violence, oppression and war, Islam acts as any other religion would.
I was under the assumption that you were speaking of the region and those that followed the Muslim teachings.. but more to your point..and I will quote "My point is that when there is peace, happiness and prosperity, Islam acts as any other religion would. And when there is violence, oppression and war, Islam acts as any other religion would." simply not true, Hoo. With all due respect, To take this statement as a whole, the facts of current violence in the world is being propagated is only by one religion. To say when there is peace, happiness and prosperity that things are fine is also not true, that has historically been when they felt the need to bring their truth to the infidels by force..it is a fundamental part of their belief system, not just my opinion. you know, it would be easier to make your argument if there was not thousands of years of history that contradicts you.
be nice, buddy, be nice.. this brings to mind something I was told a long time ago, and have increased my understanding the older I get. The passage of time is relative to ones age. When you are five, a summer is forever because you only have several lucid years of life to compare it to. By the time you are fifty, a year passes quickly as a year is only one of forty eight or so that you can recall. Wisdom is much the same. You can teach someone a subject but until they can apply the relevance to their lives it is of no value. The largest difference between the older generations and the younger ones is that we were taught how to think, while the education system today teaches only what to think. /rant
Yes, I was. Wasn't I? Which conflicts? You're going to have to get specific. What are you talking about? Please give me some examples of peaceful Muslims societies that then "Feel the need to bring their truth to the infidels by force." Conversion is a big part of Islam, as it is in many parts of Christianity and other religions. But by force? That's not fundamental. Lol. I would LOVE to get into the history if you could just be a little more specific about your arguments.
damn, I am gonna run out of time on this..I will get to it later what conflicts? really? You are better than this...hell, they dont even get along with them selves...basicly every conflict and act of terror in the world today, is there really to be specific? You dont seem to want to read a page of links.. Look at an expansion of the Muslim religion correlated to conflict and war yeah..history is my thing so we can dance..
http://ows.edb.utexas.edu/site/troubles-northern-ireland the Troubles in Northern Ireland reflect one of the most modern examples of religious and ethnic intolerance. The “Troubles” can be classified as an ethnic, religious, and political conflict in Northern Ireland that began its peak with 1960’s civil rights marches and formally ended with the 1998 Belfast Agreement, although violence and intolerance persists today. The Troubles primarily centers on the conflict between Northern Ireland’s Protestant and Catholic communities. Both communities define the Troubles differently. For example a Protestant might view the conflict as an attempt to ensure that Northern Ireland remains a part of the United Kingdom. On the other hand, a Catholic may interpret the Troubles as either a struggle to unite Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland or a movement to bring equality to Catholics. Despite the different interpretations, what remains is a conflict centered on sectarian religious differences with pervasive political and social consequences for the people of Northern Ireland.
Yeah, no, I'm not interested in a wall of links, especially when many are from dubious sources. Please do your own work. And yeah, what conflicts? We've got to get specific or you're just going to keep claiming your correct without providing any evidence.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special...d-for-major-abuses-in-CAR/UPI-14951387468916/ Christian militias suspected for major abuses in CAR NAIROBI, Kenya, Dec. 19 (UPI) -- Human Rights Watch said Thursday it suspected Christian militias in the Central African Republic have committed grave human rights abuses. "The brutal killings in the Central African Republic are creating a cycle of murder and reprisal that threatens to spin out of control," Peter Bouckaert, emergencies director at Human Rights Watch, said in a statement Thursday. Bouckaert published a 34-page report based on field work conducted in northern CAR. It found the anti-balaka, a Christian militia, have killed "several hundred" Muslims since September.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_Islam Christianity and Islam share a historical and traditional connection. The two faiths share a common origin in the Middle East[2] and Muslims consider Christians (and Jews) to be People of the Book. Belief in the Injil (the original Gospel of Jesus) is an important part of Islamic theology, although Muslims view the current Gospels as altered. The bond extends even further, with the Islamic Prophet Muhammad instructing Muslims to defend the Christian faith from aggressors after treaties of peace have been signed, such as in the document called the Achtiname of Muhammad. Islam and Christianity share the twin commandments of the paramount importance of loving God and loving one's neighbor, although the interpretations of these statements differ between the two traditions, and, indeed, vary between all three Abrahamic religions.[3]
Naw, it has little to do with religion. The Orangeman and the Ulterman do not want to be part of Ireland, historically the Ulsterman never did and the Orangemen showed up to help make it so a heck of a long time ago A good many of those boys are still Gaelic and don't want anything to do with being Catholic or part of Ireland A few of the Orangemen are Protestant but that didn't make that a religious struggle.
cool beans one link to a list of 2013 only. I really do not have the time to type it all out this AM. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2013.htm
yeah...very familiar with this. Localized struggle, and as the information you provided, political event in the name of religion.
there has been an increase in violence as the Muslims get more control Update (Sept. 23): The Westgate Mall siege is almost over. AsiaNews reports several al Shabaab terrorists committed suicide after holding non-Muslim hostages inside the mall for two days. But CNN reports the hostage situation has come to a close with a minimal number of militants still inside. Authorities had sealed off the mall exits to prevent escape. David Kimaiyo, Inspector General of Kenya's police, tweeted this morning, "Our Multi-Agencies have gunned down 2 & injured several others. I commend the officers for their bravery & the public for its calmness. IG." According to the Kenya Red Cross, the official death toll at the Westgate Mall is 62 and 175 people have been injured. ----- Islamist militants from Somalia laid seige to a popular shopping mall in Kenya's capital city, Nairobi, this weekend, killing at least 68 people and still holding hostages. Al Shabaab, which has increasingly sought to punish neighboring Kenya for its military role in an African peacekeeping mission in Somalia, claimed responsibility for the Westgate Mall attack, reports Reuters. The Associated Press reports: As the attack began shortly after noon Saturday, the al-Qaida-linked gunmen asked the victims they had cornered if they were Muslim: Those who answered yes were free to go, several witnesses said. The non-Muslims were not. A witness told The Observer how he survived: Covering the Christian name on his ID with his thumb he approached one of the attackers, whom he described as Somali, and showed them the plastic card. "They told me to go. Then an Indian man came forward and they said, 'What is the name of Muhammad's mother?' When he couldn't answer they just shot him." CT recently reported how al Shabaab has been recruiting ex-Christians to attack Kenyan churches. CT, which regularly reports on Kenya and Somalia, also noted previous attacks on Kenyan Christians by al Shabaab, which have led pastors to sue their government for protection. and Home > Archives > 2012 > July INTERNATIONAL Grenade Attack on Kenya Churches Near Somalia Kills 17 Sunday morning attack is suspected retribution for Kenyan military activity in neighboring Somalia. Jeremy Weber [ posted 7/2/2012 12:06PM ] Masked gunmen attacked two churches in the Kenyan city of Garissa during worship services Sunday, killing 17. The terrorist attack – which used grenades and guns – is the nation's worst since October, when Kenyan military forces entered Somalia to push back al-Shabaab militias. Some analysts suggest that al-Shabaab's Islamist extremists are seeking to copy Boko Haram's terrorism campaign against Nigerian churches, and worry that it might provoke similar retaliatory violence from Christians. Garissa is the headquarters of the eastern Kenyan province that borders Somalia, and hosts one of the world's largest refugee camps near Dada I dont follow these conflicts, as they are more tribal in nature, as are most African conflicts
