If you're not on the L-Train, what are you waiting for?

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  1. BrianFromWA

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    It was due to your vehement comparison of Blazer Fandom to Christianity, and how you were the arbiter of fandom. If you consider it an insult I'll stop--it wasn't ever meant to be.
    It's a play on a PapaG quote from the game thread. I discuss, I don't "throw".

    Could be. Or the guy with the map who can tell you how many stops until you reach your station.

    I said that your contention that he's playing the best in his career was wrong, and that he has done nothing appreciably different than he did on a 33-49 team other than take 2-3 more shots per game (at a lower efficiency) and get more defensive rebounds, your "31-9!" (now) trump card doesn't make much sense. Meanwhile, Dame's efficiency has gone up markedly, Wes is shooting the best he ever has, Nic's a walking assault on a triple-double, there's an NBA-caliber center now and we have a modicum of a bench. If you choose to assign MVP-dom to LMA because of counting stats, cool. No one's stopping you. But when you use those stats as a foundation to ask why others "aren't on the train", I'll tell you why I think it's not the clear-cut case you think it is.
     
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    You're just wrong. lol It's that simple. I actually took the totals from Dec, and Jan till the date of the OP. Below I took a step by step approach to show you how you can find the information for yourself. You need to add a filter "From" and click on the DATE December 1st, then "Run it". Of course this will now include SA and Dallas games.

    In 36.6 MPG: 25.3 PPG (.494 FG%, .856 FT%) 12.4 RPG 3.4 APG 0.7 SPG 1.0 BPG 1.3 TOV PG

    Or, because I'm nice:

    1) click on this link

    2) Eat your heart out
     
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    So now we've heard from BrianFromWA's ghost account, too. I don't understand why BlazerFanatic is getting dissed so much by moderators on this site. This thread should be a wake-up call for BfromWA and his sockpuppet accounts, but instead, it just continues. Now, we get a thread defending BfromWA from a poster that nobody has heard about, or knows about, prior to this thread.
     
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    How is it that you added 2 games where he shot 50% and 61% from the field, and you now show his FG% dropping?
     
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    [video=youtube;42b-Inq6l6E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42b-Inq6l6E[/video]
     
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    Players in NBA history with 25ppg/11rpg/3apg for a season. BrianFROMwa decided this is the time to go full in against LMA, even though LMA has averaged these numbers for over a month now?

    http://www.basketball-reference.com...tat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=ws
     
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    Who cares? If the analogy doesn't work for you, ignore it. And yes, your repeated insults diminishes any valid point you might have, as well as confirm my opinion of your intent. They were sexist and condescending, and my feeling on the matter is not unwarranted considering a recent thread where many people thought it acceptable to call me other distasteful names no one would say to my face and not end up on their ass.

    It's not a trump card. It's a reality. LA is improved ALL AROUND, on the aggregate. You are trying to parse the MVP candidate convo (that I did not talk about in my OP by the way), with a shooting chart.

    I'm not arguing that LA just became who he is today all of the sudden. I know he was almost this good last season. The addition of Lopez and some more help on the bench has been the main reason for his increase in production, as it has benefited every one on the Blazers. Regardless, the stats are what they are, and collectively they are the best he's put up in his career from that perspective.

    I've always argued that LA has always been great. To buy what you're selling, I'd have to believe that LA is not, and never has been.
     
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    I'll repost verbatim from my original response to the OP:
     
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    You should write your grievance to NBA.com. The injustice!
     
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    And that's the moral of this story.

    /The End
     
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    He's not shooting enough!
     
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    Wow. Just, wow. As I said, if (since) you find it an insult, I've stopped.

    And NO, he HASN'T. His ppg and rpg numbers are up, because he's shooting more shots. His PPP are not as high as they were last year. His ORB are not as high as they were last year. He's crushing DRB, as I pointed out (and backed up).

    I am defending my opinion that he's not playing the best ball of his career, and that I personally don't feel the need to be "on the L-Train" until he gets more consistently into the post and becomes a more efficient scorer. Everything else has been defense of that opinion.

    As I've stated repeatedly, yes. He's taking 21 shots a game--3 more than his career high--which is why he's getting more ppg. Earlier this season when he was shooting 54% and people were pointing to that as a harbinger that he should just keep shooting as much as he liked (not sure if you were one or not, so disregard if you don't care), I asked what changed with him to get him from shooting 41.8% +/- 1% for 7 straight years on those shots, to now being above 50%? Well, now that he's back down to his career averages (which all show that he's NOT an "elite" shooter on par with Dirk/Scola/Anderson/KG/M.Gasol/etc (all these threads are available from the summer, if you don't want to rehash them here), he's still shooting more of those "contested" jumpers as a detriment to the team's overall offense.

    Not at all. I think (and have repeatedly said) that right now LMA's the best PF in the game not named LeBron, because of his paint game. But he's not an elite shooter---he's elite when he gets into the paint and uses his array of moves and power (as we've seen the last two days) to abuse teams who can't defend him. And his jumper, when open, spaces the floor. When contested, it's better to have DeAndre Jordan shooting FTs for us. So to your point--no, I can't get behind LMA shooting 500+ sub-optimal jumpers in less than half a season when we have 2 guys shooting 44% or so from 3, or guys like Nic who can drive the lane at will when LMA's being "contested".
     
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    You said he was shooting 50% for the 2 months. That's not true. NBA.com didn't have it wrong. Perhaps you read the wrong column? No, of course not. And it's the internet, so of course you can't just say you had it wrong. Brian said you had it wrong, meh, whatever. You keep on doing what you do.
     
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    Which part of that edit (as opposed to the original that doesn't seem to fit your narrative) do you think that I haven't sufficiently backed up?
     
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    GO BULLS!
     
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    This thread is terrible.

    You can't evaluate anyone in a vacuum (via a single statistic). Especially one that is so heavily skewed towards three-point shooting.

    Karl Malone's career eFG% was 0.51... good for seventh on this team. Ryan Anderson? 0.53. Jokes on you, though, if you'd want to trade Aldridge or Malone for Ryan "check that eFG%" Anderson. U
     
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    Everyone has the wrong stats and everyone is wrong in this thread! There! :MARIS61:
     
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