Rangers, Callahan Talking Extension; Asking Price Per Dreger is $42M/7 Years

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  1. Ranger71

    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

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    I would demand a 1st in any deal, especially if he's going to a top 10 team which is basically a high 2nd. I'd try and move him to Chicago for a 1st and one of their top prospects like McNeill, Terevainen or Pirri. Maybe StL for a 1st, Morrow, prospect.
     
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    Chicago is never trading Terevainen. Just forget that. I would think Callahan to the Ducks for Etem and one of their two, first rounders.
     
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    I don't think Anaheim would trade Etem either Dump. Chicago is stacked with prospects so even one of the others would be a nice return.
     
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    6:21PM: Girardi’s contract could be done by the Olympic break. (Darren Dreger on TSN Drive)

    3:18PM: The Rangers have sent Girardi two-offers, one for SIX-YEARS at more than $5 million and one that is FIVE-YEARS and worth more than $5.5 million. (NY Post)
     
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    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

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    Both of those work for me.
     
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    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

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    If they re-sign Girardi for 5-6 years were going to have another Redden situation. And no buyout available.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    I'm with you mrm. 71 just hates Girardi, so anything more than 2 years at 2 mill per would be a bad deal in his eyes.

    Girardi is a 1st pair dman who plays over 20 mpg for us. You cannot easily replace that. A cap hit in the low to mid 5's is not crazy. Even a 5 year deal means 30-34 age wise, not crazy.
     
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    He's not a first pair quality dman, that's the problem. On any other team he's a 3/4. Plus he's over 30 and on the decline.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    On any other team he is a 3/4. Okay 71...LOL.

    And he is 29, so no he is not over 30.

    You are not a Girardi fan, that is cool, but let's at least be factual man.
     
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    Ok, but don't come crying to me in 2yrs when he's a cap issue. :) I bet if Sather took the time to ask AV about 5 more years of Girardi he wouldn't be thrilled.
     
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    I bet you are wrong on that. Sather isn't going to re-sign him for 5 years if AV says I don't want him here.

    I like 5 a lot more than 6 years. If we go 5 it is possible the last season is a wash. MAYBE even the last 2 seasons, it is possible. But he will be 30-34 on a 5 year deal, not mid 30's. And the cap will keep going up. So a 5.4 or so cap hit won't be awful for a guy who can be a 1st pair dman for 3 years at least IMO.
     
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    I guess, but either way they need another top pair guy to go with McD as they move forward and really become a SC caliberc team.
     
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    I do think they need a big physical dman still, but maybe that will be McIlrath.

    McD/Girardi
    Staal/McIlrath
    Moore/Klein

    Solid D IMO. Maybe add another solid vet to be there to work with McIlrath and for depth.
     
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    I think they need a top pair guy with more offense than either of those 2 provide, thats just my opinion. Girardi dosen't have much offensively obviously and Mc is a mixture. Plus Girardi to me is out of position alot and very turnover prone these days.
     
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    After watching his play this year and looking at the 42 mill 7 year deal he wants I can only deduce that cally was hit in the head with a lot more pucks than we thought.
     
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    71. You're on crack. The other defenseman for the most part on these teams are horrific compared to Girardi. It is one thing not to want to pay the guy a ton. It's another to just make crap up.
     
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    Sounds by all accounts that the Rangers have no interest in signing Callahan to that contract. Thank God. I said from day one that Miller is a bigger version of Callahan. I'm sure the Rangers know this. I grow tired of any Rangers forward who has some success here asking for the freakin moon with contracts. How does Callahan have the balls for ask for more money than McDonagh? Because he's played longer? I'd tell Callahan, you aren't nearly as good as McDonagh, and you aren't getting paid more than him stupid. You can't do that with Girardi because he's' had several years as one of the better shut down guys in the league. Doesn't matter if McDonagh is better than he is. Callahan has never been one of the better forwards in the game.

    Still say

    Etem and one of the Ducks first rounders for Cally.
     
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    The difference between McD and Cally is Cally is set to be a UFA and McD was set to be an RFA, BUT I agree dump. To me Cally is nuts, no other word to use.

    He has ZERO O in his game right now. Sure he still hits and blocks some big shots, but zero O, and he thinks that is worth 6 mill per? Come on Cally wake up please. He should be 5 tops, and I rather upper 4's for him as a cap hit.

    I get it is a back and forth negotiation, but Cally needs to be honest. 7 years 42 mill is nutso. If Sather goes anywhere near that I will be pissed. If Cally's cap hit is anything more than low 5's, and even that is too much really, I will be pissed.


    I said at the start they could re-sign Cally and Girardi for 10-11 mill per total, we'll see on that.
     
  19. NYR31

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    Cally would be nuts NOT to ask for that type of contract. At the very least gives him room to negotiate, and at the very best Sather gets caught drunk and gives it to him.

    And i chuckled (ha) when Chuck asked 71 to be factual about Girardi. MDZ, anyone?
     
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    Callahan is demonstrating what Drury did. That would be, he knows his doesn't have much longer with his style of play, getting paid is a top priority instead of winning. This is the kind of player the Rangers need to stop giving big contracts to. Especially when they have two replacements in Miller and Lindberg who can play right now in the NHL for next to nothing. They probably will be productive after 65 NHL games. Miller did a lot right. Just needs to stick on one line and get a few goals.
     

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