Anyone know why Muslims hate being photographed?

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  1. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    So now we finally know why Muslims do not want to be photographed, they want no proof that they also enjoy bacon!
     
  2. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    BLASPHEMER! BURN THE HERETIC!
     
  3. TradeNurkicNow

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    That's a very strong and violent reaction so I am forced to assume that all bacon eaters share your views
     
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    Admittedly I know very little about bacon but I've read the ingredients on a package of Hormel so I'm as informed as I need to be to yell about it on the internet
     
  5. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It seems you are overqualified. You should be getting that information from an email chain letter purporting to list the ingredients.

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    I actually got my info from the totally impartial website baconwatch.org
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    In the case in which I addressed, those that seek to minimize innocent deaths are morally superior.

    I paid attention in all my classes. And I also didn't accept everything I heard, but I see you did. That's sweet.

    All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. Bottom line, terrorism is a vastly Muslim problem, and few if any speak against terrorism. If terrorism as a tool ends by Muslims, it will have to be Muslims that stand against those that use terrorism in their religion's name.
     
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    Come on man. "We want people to live in peace, freedom and prosperity." How is that not ripped straight from a U.S. history text book from 10th grade?

    Oh and I've just accepted everything I heard? I was in high school on 9/11. You want to know the kind of shit I heard? That all Muslims accept terrorism. That the images of Palestinians dancing in the streets they were playing on the news was in reaction to the attacks (they weren't.) That Islam is an inherently violent religion that supports terrorism. I didn't accept those things, and I went and got an education so I knew what the hell I was talking about.


    We've had this argument so many times, so I'll just run through the bullet points.

    1. Just because you haven't heard about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Muslims condemn terrorism all the time. It doesn't make the nightly news or your right wing blogs.

    2. Much of the Muslim world has little power against terrorism. The vast majority of terrorist attacks are against other Muslims. Blame the governments for being toothless. Don't blame the innocent victims. There is little they can do.
     
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    So, 7 pages of Islamophobia. Why am I not surprised?

    Because if the original quesiton was a serious one, the poster would go to the web site of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. Or a local mosque. Or similar site. That is where a person goes who has a serious question about a religion. Not a sports board, none of whose members, so far as I know, are Muslim. Seems the whole point of starting this thread was to post nasty things about Muslims by people with no study at all in Islam.
     
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    Great response.
     
  12. bluefrog

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    Well said.

    Have you read about the deradicalization efforts many countries are making to stop terrorism?
     
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    What's this? A LGBT booster standing for the Muslims? How is that going to work when they implement Shria Law?

    This may provide a clue:

    1. Men have not been created to be spouses for men; rather it is women that have been created for them.

    2. Going for sexual needs to those who have not been created for this purpose has been severely disapproved as transgression. (See also Q. 26: 168).

    3. It also clearly follows from the first point that for women then men have been created to be spouses just as women have been created to be spouses for men. Therefore, it follows from the second point that, for women, leaving men to choose women is a transgression worthy of similar, severe condemnation as they too choose those who are not meant to be their sexual partners.

    http://www.monthly-renaissance.com/issue/PrintVersion.aspx?id=1281
     
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    "-phobia," lol...
     
  15. oldguy

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    Do you have the numbers for Hamas, Hezbollah and the rest of the gang?

    Go Blazers
     
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    “The Koran is our constitution, the Prophet is our leader, jihad is our path and death in the name of Allah is our goal,”

    Mohamed Morsi, the day after he was elected president of Egypt.

    Go Blazers
     
  17. Denny Crane

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    Hamas military wing is 1,000. They operate exclusively in the Gaza Strip. As elected leaders, they gained access to foreign aid from whatever sources. Hamas has support of about 19% of Palestinians, according to polls taken since -2004.

    Hezbollah has 600-1000 active fighters, an army of 3000-5000 (not all are active), and maybe 10,000 reserves.

    This is a teensiest fraction of the 1.7B Muslims.

    As Hoojacks wrote, Muslims don't condone terrorism, they're far more often the target of terrorism than anyone else. Think back to the W years in Iraq... The Mosque bombing was terrorist attack on a Muslim holy place. Drive by shootings of Muslims standing in line to join the police force. And so on.

    And all that pales in comparison to despots like Saddam, who mass murdered Muslims by the millions.
     
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    Brilliant piece of posting here Denny! Best post on the thread. So many have ripped off Frank Zappa's line from his autobiography..if you want to stop a suicide bomber you just use a pork spritzer...they can't get to heaven smelling like pork. But really I see a few hundred Americans everyday at work and it just takes a few assholes to make folks think America is full of assholes..why? They are usually the loudest people.
     
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    I wasn't making a case that all Muslims condone terrorism. Clearly that's not the case. What I was getting at is that you seem to trying to make a case that there are only a handful of Muslims that condone terrorism.

    I'm no expert on the issue at all, but when looking at how many terroists are out there, counting up the number of known Al-Qaeda fighers is vastly understating the number of Muslims that condone terrorism.

    The Al-Qaeda groups for which you provided the number of fighters are a given. How many jihadis to these groups sponsor? How many affiliated groups are there? Didn't Al-Qaeda say they had cells all over the US?

    More importantly, how many Joe Schmoe Muslims support these groups, but aren't part of the organization? In your post, you note that 19% of Palestinians support Hamas. I don't know how many Palistinians there are, but what, maybe 5 million? That would seem to suggest that there are about a million Palestinians that condone terrorism.

    I don't know if Wikislam is a legit site to trust imfomation from, but they seem to have what appears to be a lot of data. (They had some statements on the site that make me a little skeptical.) They show data from 2003 surveys that indicate the percentages of people that have confidence in Osama Bin Laden to do the right thing in foreign affairs. Indonesia alone was at about 50% that had high, or some, confidence in OBL. Their population is on the order of 200M. That seems to indicate that some 100M had some level of support for the world's most famous terrorist....just in Indonesia. Even if only 10% of those people stongly support terrorism, it is still light years from the few thousands you provided.

    That survey had similar support coming from Pakistan and Morocco. http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Terrorism

    Go Blazers
     
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  20. Denny Crane

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    The palestinians that support Hamas do so because they think Hamas will best achieve their political aims. Hamas is a political party there.

    The issues aren't black and white as you seem to want them to be.

    Timothy McVeigh blew up a federal building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 and injuring 680. McVeigh was a Roman Catholic. Using your logic, Roman Catholics are violent terrorists.

    Using my logic, it's not black and white. The grey bits tell us he had become radicalized to his cause and went nuts.

    And that's what I think about the few muslims who do commit violent acts - they become radicalized to a cause (not Islam) and go nuts.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_attitudes_towards_terrorism#Recent_polls

    John Esposito, using poll data from Gallup, wrote that Muslims and Americans were equally likely to reject violence against civilians. He also found that those Muslims who support violence against civilians are no more religious than Muslims who do not.[18]
     

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