Ding ding ding!!!! My point has been that CJ is playing exponentially better without Mo. It's not a coincidence. Also, I don't understand how so one of the biggest arguments is that we need Mo for his scoring, but I've shown that he's a terribly inconsistent and poor shooter.
Where did I say that? We need the assists and lack of TOVs. We don't get that from C.J. Last night he had 3 AST and 5 TOVs. That's NOT good. He continues to have more TOVs than assists. His AST/TOV ratio is 0.72, compared to Mo's 2.32 - and people around here bitch about Mo turning the ball over. BNM
What is this based on? Yes, C.J. has gotten more FGAs that last two games (he only got 4 FGA in the IND game - without Mo in the lineup), but that's because his minutes have doubled. He's gotten 12 FGA in 26 - 28 MPG. When both Mo and C.J. were playing, C.J. regulalry got 6 or 7 FGA in 12 - 14 MPG. I think people are grasping at straws to hate on Mo. This isn't Meyers vs. TRob situation. C.J. and Mo can play together and be productive. BNM
Mo Williams rarely makes the right decisions when it actually matters. He can't make shit, his assists are assists anyone could get, he sucks at defense (not that our other small guards are better at that one), and he makes mistakes when they matter most. Some of you seem to only care about stats. Stats should take a back seat to what you see. Mo doesn't make difficult passes, he gets assists because he's swinging it to players who can actually score. C.J., so far, has not been given the role Mo has. To me, it's fairly certain that C.J. would do better than Mo if he were granted the opportunity, simply because of how much better he is.
You have the stats that say CJ is getting shots in the games that he and Mo are playing in at the same time? Would love to see them. As I said it could easily be my imagination.
And yet his PER is almost 2 points higher than C.J.'s who is getting all kinds of love in this thread. If you hate Mo because of his 11.5 PER, you must absolutely despise C.J. with his PER of 9.7. BNM
I doubt this will be a problem. How many games did they play together? CJ is earning the respect of his teammates, and if Mo was freezing him out his first few games, I find it hard to believe it would continue. I am hoping Mo and CJ can play well together. I agree CJ has played better without him, but things change. We need Mo and we also need CJ to get experience before the playoffs. .
I don't and I don't believe such stats are readily available. And no, I'm not going to sort through the play-by-play game logs and figure it out. My only point is, C.J. gets about the same FGA/36 regardless if Mo is playing, or not. Plus, the sample size is so small, they are still learning to play together. Mo, as a PG, needs to learn where his teammates like to receive the ball. He hasn't had a chance to build that on-court chemistry with C.J. yet. BNM
To me, Mo isn't a prototypical pt guard, he's a 6 man..looks to push the tempo and looks to score or assist. Similar to Jason Terry. 6th man players aren't usually brought in to be lock down defenders. They're there to tire out the oppositions lock down defender and Mo is vocal on the floor, making sure guys are where they should be. I think he's a great fit and we missed him against the Thunder
Well said! I don't understand this board's need to always have a scapegot - even when the team is performing well above expectations. I started this thread to simply ask when Mo would rejoin the team. It quickly turned into another round of Mo bashing and then morphed into Mo vs. C.J. (last I checked, they are on the same team). Not sure why the need to choose one over the other. I want them BOTH to play well and help the team win. Neither is perfect and both have glaring holes in their games. That's why neither is a starter at this point in their respective careers. But, both can also help the team and they are our two best bench players. This team definitely needs their bench to step up and help the starters win some games. So, I want both Mo and C.J. available and playing their best. And, when one of them isn't, I'll leave it up to Stotts to figure out who to play and how many minutes they get. Of course, I've always felt the same way about Leonard vs. Robinson. I want them BOTH to succeed. And, now that Freeland is out, I want them BOTH to step up and contribute. I never understood the satisfaction some posters derive from seeing a member of their team fail. Is it just the satisfaction of being able to say "I told you so" to a bunch of strangers on an internet forum? BNM
