Portland Trail Blazers trade rumors: Multi-player deal only move for Rip City

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  1. ponderguy

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    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/2/17/5414166/portland-trail-blazers-trade-rumors-2014
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  2. Natebishop3

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    Seems like pure speculation and no actual rumors.
     
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    yea, basically comes down to if they want to make a move they need to move their young assets but chemistry so they won't
     
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    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    The Blazers should do something to contend, but don't have many assets except for young guys who may develop into something in the future, but maybe they shouldn't make a move because it might disrupt chemistry. Man, I love Internet "analysts".
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Richard Hamilton is unsigned.

    Rip to Rip City?

    Nah. I don't think the team needs another SG/SF.
     
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    Only a trade could fuck up this team right now.
     
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    FTFY, but it's always implied.
     
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    Right now, in February, the team is playing sub-.500 ball. Seems like they're doing a perfectly good job fucking themselves up without any outside help.
     
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    in addition we've just lost LMA for a week at least and Meyers for 2-3, we need one BIG at least. Heck cut Barton and pickup someone like Dwayne Dedmon or someone else
     
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    I didn't even want to hint at that.
     
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    February? LOL.

    You can always give a bad impression by limiting the scope of your statistics. NBA Basketball is not a game measured by monthly blocks of data.

    It is measured by:
    1. Individual games
    2. Regular Season Record
    3. Playoff Record

    So far, so good.

    Our bigs will be well-rested come playoff time, an enviable silver lining.
     
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    Okay sweet pea, in the last two months (21 games) they are 11-10. So we are BARELY playing .500 ball in the last two months. Maybe you didn't notice, but .500 ball doesn't get you in the playoffs. The Grizzlies are 30-23 right now and they're in 9th place.
     
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    Exactly and how do some of these guys think the team will play with all these injuries? I keep hearing "chemistry" as a reason for not doing trades, well let me tell you what happens to chemistry if we keep losing lots of games - it deteriorates and is down the test tube.
     
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    29 games left winning 1/2 = 14.5 wins
    putting the blazers at 50 wins. which = playoffs.
     
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    Freeland is out five or six weeks.

    Leonard is out a couple weeks.

    LA is out a week.

    How exactly are we going to keep winning games?
     
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    careful Nate, that may require too much thinking - don't assume
     
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    that is a completely different question than from what you earlier posted.

    you said .500 ball doesn't get you into the playoffs. I simply said with stats that .500 ball if they were to continue playing there it would give them 50 wins and in the playoffs.
    you made no inquires about injuries, neither did I. therefore that cannot come into play in your statement that .500 ball doesn't get you into the playoffs.




    completely disrespectful. and to which I reply. die in a fire.
     
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    You're assuming that the teams below us are playing .500 ball the rest of the way. Up until now, Phoenix is just a hair under .600, Golden State is .585, Dallas is at 58.2.

    Also, the reason why I pointed out the injuries is because our team does not play well without LA. How did we finish the season last year?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    .600 for the season is 49 wins. For us to miss the playoffs with 50 wins, Phoenix, Golden State and Dallas would all have to increase their win rates to better than .600 for the remainder of the year, and Memphis would have to go, what, 21-8 (.724)?

    Not saying I'd be thrilled with .500 over the last 30 games, but it would still probably be good enough for the postseason.
     
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    Alright you sir are starting to annoy me. But here lets go with this "hypothesis"

    thought you were talking about the last 21 games only? not the entire season winning % like you just listed for those three teams.

    but lets try this off the top of my head without the correct math and with your invalid hypothesis. knowing full well the blazers are 11wins 10 losses in their last 21 games. And you put the entire season winning % for Mavs, Warriors, and Suns.

    The Blazers sit at 36 and 17. with 29 games remaining.
    following your statement from previous posts.
    If they play .500 ball the rest of the way they'd get 14 wins 14 losses with remainder of 1.
    For sake of putting all 82 games in schedule and being the blazers have 11 wins and 10 losses in the last 21 games. lets say the extra goes to wins. so they'd have 15 wins 14 losses.
    with a final record of 51 wins and 31 losses.

    The Suns are currently at 31wins and 21 losses which equals a .600% win rate. So they have 30 games left on the season.
    Now I was never really good at math but I believe 60% of 30 is 18 wins. and 12 losses.
    Putting the Suns with a final record of 49 wins and 33 losses.
    Below the Blazers 51 wins and 31 losses.

    The Warriors aren't winning at .585% rate on the season anymore just like the Blazers aren't winning at .679% on the season.
    But for the sake of YOUR argument lets say they win at .585% for the rest of their games.
    They sit at 31 wins and 22 losses. Leaves them with 29 games left.
    So .585% of 29 is 17.55. putting the Warriors with a finishing record of 48wins and 33 losses.
    Which is only 81 games, being that the warriors in their last 10 are only 5-5 lets go with them finishing 48wins and 34 losses.

    The Mavs are currently at 32 wins and 23 losses. Leaving them with 27 games left. 58% of 27 is 15.6 so lets go with 16 wins.
    Being that the Mavs are 7-3 in their 10 games. They'd finish with a record of 48 wins and 34 losses.

    Now I will also do this.
    To make your hypothesis valid I will Take the Blazers SEASON winning % just like you did with these three teams here and put the record for the blazers.
    The Blazers sit at 36 wins and 17 losses. with a SEASON winning % of .679.
    The Blazers have 29 games left if they won at a .679% ratio the rest of the year they'd finish with a record of 19 wins and 10 losses.
    Giving them a record of 55 and 27.

    So I have a question for you, can tell while I was writing this up that I was annoyed I had to write it up? -.- Can you tell that it was annoying to me you only took the Blazers last 21 games. Then decided to take the season winning % of the Mavs/Warriors/Suns to back up your argument?

    I will not include injuries in this post because Durant could go down next game and OKC would fall off the map. Same with all Superstar players.
    The Blazers will struggle without Aldridge, but who knows they might surprise. Have been all season. or they might fall off the map.
    Your statement was playing .500 ball does not get you in the playoffs. Just showed you with MATH it does.
    /end tyvm.
     

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