OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My Games

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Will Sterling be owner of the Clips on Nov. 1?

  1. yes, he'll still be owner (Sterlng Wins, at least temporarily)

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  2. no, he'll be ousted (Sterling Loses)

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    25.0%
  3. no, but he'll make an exorbitant amount of dough in the sale (Sterling basically wins)

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  1. PapaG

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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    As an armchair lawyer, as they say, it's all in the details of the contract.
     
  2. Natebishop3

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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    What happens if the players union gets the feds involved? I don't think the NBA wants this to become more than it is.
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    For what, Violation of unnamed person's civil rights? Hostile work environment? None of these are provable. Hell, why don't we just get Obama to issue an executive order to kick Sterling out of the country while we're at it.

    Emotionally, there's a right thing to do and its to kick him out of the league. Legally, the league doesn't have much they can do other than to denounce and maybe suspend him from attending NBA sanctioned events.

    Its going to be a Witch Hunt. League should buy the franchise from Sterling and spend the summer looking for new owners. However, they really shouldn't do this during the playoffs because it looks improper if they Clippers CONTINUE getting calls like they usually do because it just increases the franchise value if they were to win it all. The flip side is that what if Sterling wins the championship. He's entitled to his championship rings, etc. That's going to be a huge blackeye on the league.

    Best case scenario is that the Clippers get knocked out by Golden State, then the league buys the team from Sterling and sells it quickly via bidding process.
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    A contract isn't needed to show that this was:

    1. A private conversation
    2. Recorded illegally
    3. Not a directive to anyone associated with the team in any capacity whatsoever

    Unless there are corroborating examples or similar directives showing a pattern of this train of though as a Policy of Sterling's, I really don't see what can just punishment can be leveled. Not saying that something won't happen, but in all likelihood it would probably be legally unjustified.
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    I'm pretty sure Sterling will do whatever the hell he wants. If he wants to be the owner, then he'll continue to be the owner. If the league screws with him and they're not careful, he'll sue them making him a lot of money.

    It'd be interesting to hear what Ed O. has to say about this.
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    The ironic thing is that if Sterling continued his usual philosophy of the Clippers as a business, right now would be the optimal time to sell the franchise. He has all the leverage in the world to extract maximum value.
     
  7. Natebishop3

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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    Just out of curiosity, I thought it was illegal to record someone without their knowledge. Shouldn't this chick be facing charges?
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    It is the market deciding this. Or rather business owners acting in the interest of maximizing profits in a market. It wasn't the US federal or a state government that decided to come together to form the NBA. It was a collection of businesses and individuals. That collection put together their own constitution with the end goal of securing and maximizing profitability.

    The basic question is, "Does keeping Sterling around help the NBA (and thereby the owners) maximize profitability?" This isn't about Big Brother. It's all about the market.

    Cuban is asking, "Does getting rid of Sterling create a 'slippery slope' where any owner could lose his ownership if he behaves like a jackass?" You can see why Cuban especially would be worried about this. I don't think this is a slippery slope at all. If I were an owner, I'd keep that in mind and put some limitations in there, but at the end of the day Sterling is damaging the NBA product. His dickishness is sidetracking the playoffs and tarnishing the brand of the entire league. He's an idiot and a dinosaur, and he's done enough damage.
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    He kind of echoes my feelings.
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    The logical slope here after this if the league forces him out:

    1. What if an owner does not support same sex marriage. That is equal to bigotry and hatred and therefore he should lose his franchise.

    2. What if an owner does not recognize that gender is a social construct. That is equal to bigotry and hatred and therefore he should lose his franchise.

    and so forth and so on.
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    It seems similar to a neighborhood homeowners association. If the neighborhood doesn't like you can they force you to sell the house? My guess is that they can only if they violate some provision within the homeowner's contract. I don't think Sterling has and I don't think Cuban believes he has either.

     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    He needs to be careful so his own team doesn't turn on him for not totally the hard line stance. This is proving to be a very sensitive issue
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    I agree with Mark Cuban. It's what I've been trying to post.

    Cuban knows that he could be next. That's why he voted with Paul Allen against the Sonic move to Oklahoma.
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    I've decided I want Sterling to keep the team. It's time for the Clips to suck again, and Sterling owning the team would guarantee it.
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    It will be interesting, if he keeps the team, to see if guys like Griffin and Paul want out.
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    I don't like Cuban but he's not wrong here.
    I don't think Sterling should be forced out unless he effects the BRI of the league and starts costing them $.
    I think everything Sterling said was bogus and wrong, and it's no excuse but it was a lover quarrel.
    Everyone has a right to their opinion however wrong it is, as well as everyone has a right to voice their opinion unpopular or not.
    Which he didn't voice it... it was within his own home with someone he "trusted".
    This goes back to the whole tolerance issue, however much that annoys me.
    Cannot be intolerant of his views. If your asking for tolerance you must practice what you preach.
    This also goes back to what my mother told me when I was 12. Women are EVIL! :P lol :)

    But once again what he said is clearly a joke and once he starts costing the league $. He should be removed.




    it is and I'm sure she will be brought up on charges by sterling and his camp.
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    First they came for the Racists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Racist....:tsktsk:
     
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    What's obvious is that many owners dislike Sterling for assorted unrelated reasons, and are using this incident to vent.
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    Yep.
     
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    Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

    Im doing my part by not buying clippers gear ot tickets. Im a martyr.
     

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