I am with papa regarding Hank. Not everything has to be revolved around him. You dont need to have a world class, elite goalie to win the cup. Chicago has won the cup with Niemi and Crawford. The pens won the cup with the flower.
I am sure there will be a team in the west who will take a chance on Nash. He is not that old and 40 goal scorer. Maybe sharks will bite.
Good point. Now all we need are top 3 picks in back to back drafts so we can get a Kane/Toews or Crosby/Malkin combo. In today's NHL you need a world-class goalie if you don't have that kind of talent up front. Thomas was unreal for Boston. Quick was unreal for the Kings. Our offense is closer to those teams than Chicago's or the Pens in their winning years.
First thing that has to happen is as soon as the season ends is sather retires. Otherwise same old same old. The ideal replacement is JD but dolan would really have to be creative with the compensation for that to happen(maybe columbus would like a top d-man signed to a long term reasonable contract like girardi). Being this is probably a pipe dream hope that groton is a big enough name for dolan to let takeover for sather. Then groton needs to build the rangers like he helped build the bruins into a big tough physical team loaded with skill players. It is time for the 10th pick in the 2010 draft who has been in the minors for 5 seasons now Mr.Mcilreith to be unleashed on the league to protect his teammates, clear the crease and unleash bone jarring hits along the boards. Allen should be up here also to add some more size. Strahlman needs to be let go, klein and his reasonable contract traded and replaced by youth and grit of big mac and allen cheaply from below. Richards released, hags traded for some size with skill. Stasny needs to be signed, stepan needs to hit a weight room and nash unfortunately we're stuck with at least for another year unless his feelings are hurt by the fans booing, he'll accept a trade somewhere and the compensation from that trade is acceptable to us. Maybe Nash is the type of player that will excel playing surrounded by all the talent on the canadian all-star team or in a city that there is nothing to play for, the team stinks and he can put up numbers in relative obscurity.
And will Nash also accept a deal to this "team out West"? And will we get any value back for him? As for Hank, look I don't love having a goalie with an 8.5 mill cap hit, it does really hurt the cap as I said when he re-signed, but we kind of had no choice. I was hoping for upper 7's or 8 TOPS, and frank would have been happier at 7-7.5 tops, but that wasn't happening and his cap hit is 500-750 K too high IMO. We'll see if the formula to build a winning team includes a goalie with over an 8 mill per cap hit. I question if it works. BUT with that said, if you aren't loaded upfront you need a very good goalie. Maybe not the best/top 3, but you need a very good one. And to mention MAF is funny. He won a cup in 2009, but how have the Pens done since then? No SCF's. So we'll see if you can win with him as a goalie still. But the Hank at 8.5 per question is legit. We'll see if we can build enough around him to win with a cap hit that high for our goalie.
you know what...fuck that...if when was the last time Nash stood up for his teammate? what to make a statement say hey im not going to take this shit anymore...McD....getting slashed...FUCKING SLASH BACK...go up to the fucking goon and clock him. don't rely on someone else to do something you can do yourself. Nash is the biggest pussy, if I am a small guy why would I say hey I got to jump the guy who smacked Nash around, how about Nash and is big fucking body do some hitting other than, what I heard or read, 11 hits all season.
NASH IS SOFT. That's it. That is the way he plays. There is simply no way in the world to debate it. It is how he plays. It is who he is. Is what it is. We'll see if he can produce in the playoffs with that style of play. So far the CLEAR answer is no.
aren't you the same person who said they should start Talbot in this next game? We go shutout shutout and you want to blame the goalie.... were you blaming the goalie when he single handed won game 6 and game 7 against Washington?
Oh my god, this ranger fan obsession with hank. I am not blaming Hank. We haven't won anything with Hank. I am saying at some point, the rangers need to stop catering to him. It hurts the team.
Quick is one of the top 3 goalies in the league. I would say Hank, Quick, Rask are the big 3 right now. But there are a few others right there as well. I don't think you need 1 of those 3 to win, but you do need a very good goalie to win a cup, unless you simply have a loaded team. You cannot win it with a whatever goalie I don't think. But on the flip side we'll see if you can win a cup with a 8.5 mill per cap hit goalie...1.5 more than any other goalie.
Are you just writing words or do they mean something? We just re-signed him for 8.5 mill per. So how exactly do we stop catering to him? Move on man...that ship has sailed IMO.
so Hank is the highest paid goalie now in the league with 0 cups. Yes, we stopped catering to him. Anyway, like you said chuck, we will see if we can win with him and his 8.5 mill per.
How in the hell is Quick overrated? I'm sorry Step but your view on goalies is getting more absurd by the day.
You are not getting it Step. My point is there is nothing we can now do to stop catering to him as you say. He just re-signed. He has a NTC. So writing about it is a waste. Just like writing a long paragraph on Sather going is a waste of time. Not going to happen. Nothing can be done.
why are you so hung up on this cap hit for a goalie? A. The impact is the same than if the cap hit was from a skater, so are we now going to try to analyze how many teams have won with a forward making $8.5M? Dumb...B. It won't be long before Henrik is no longer the highest paid as salaries will continue to go up. If the current teams leading their series finish them off, you'll have 2 teams that had top 5 picks in PIT and CHI with Crosby/Malking and Toews/Kane, and the Kings who have loaded themselves with a lot of top talent. Doughty, Gaborik, Kopitar, Carter and Brown were all drafted in the first 13 picks of the draft. They have as much skill as anyone.
You read WAY too much into it 31. We'll see. I know in your land it doesn't work like that. You speak like it is a done deal or a lock. But Hank has a 1.5 mill cap hit higher than any other goalie. I do not know if you can build a deep solid team with a goalie that has an 8.5 mill cap hit. We'll see. Maybe it won't be any issue at all. Not sure. That is my point, I don't know. But since you can see the future, just tell us all how it will work out and give us the lotto numbers also please. And BTW...I don't think we'll have a goalie with a bigger cap hit anytime soon. Maybe not one with over a 7 or 7.5 mill cap hit anytime soon. Quick just re-signed. Rask just re-signed. Maybe you see some goalie get that cap hit for 1 MAYBE 2 years if a team is a goalie away, but not sure if you see a long term goalie deal with 7.5 mill + as a cap hit. Again we'll see.
