Assumption game

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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    This is literally the ass / u / me game

    Purely for off season entertainment

    Let's say for shits and giggles that Aldridge goes to Olshey and says he plans to look around after next year unless he can add a third star.

    1. Who do you think we could get

    2. Who do you think would be acceptable to LA

    3. At that point should we trade him for a loaded lottery

    4. What would you give up to get said player

    Try to make it as realistic as possible. No Lebron to Portland for Leonar_ or whatever
     
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    I think you obviously look to land that player before moving Aldridge. If you get the sense he is likely to move on, you move him for the best package possible. Not just a pick in this draft.
     
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    I'd give up anyone besides damian to bring in the right player. Obviously the player determines the package.

    I'll also add that I still don't necessarily think it's as simple as needing 3 stars to win. The "Big 3" necessary to get to a title. I think you ideally need a few excellent role players, or stars being willing to be role players. Chris Bosh has taken himself from star to superb role player. Garnett for the most part did the same thing going to Boston. Bringing in a 3rd star works if guys are willing to sacrifice time/touches.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    In order to properly complement LA & Dame, I think it would need to be a slashing wing player with both the ability to finish at the rim, as well as a decent 3-point shot. Someone like what Paul Pierce used to be would be ideal. I don't think that player exists. Gay or Derozan, if they were more efficient. Can Aaron Afflalo finish well?
     
  5. illmatic99

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    I really don't understand the premise.

    Nic in these playoffs put up: 15/8/5 on 47/35/80% while being our best defender and doing all the little things.

    I'd like to find some other guys who can be better #3s. Ibaka maybe? Parsons? Kawhi? Deron? Bosh??

    I'd take Nic's play and impact over almost all of those guys.
     
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    Are those players "sexy" enough for Aldridge to stay?
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    The problem with our team isn't with the #3 star. It's with the lack of any talent whatsoever when you consider #s 6-13.
     
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    Another opinion. not a wrong one necessarily, but I disagree. A bench would obviously help though
     
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    This. Then again who knows, stotts hasn't really given them a chance yet. Mainly talking about McCollum, Crabbe and Barton. If crabbe can develop into a belinelli that would be great.
     
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    Gay probably is. Derozan too. Afflalo, not so much. Stephenson, maybe?

    Deng might be the most available guy that would fit the presumed criteria. What are the chances that Cleveland would work with us in setting up an S&T for him?
     
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    I think the Spurs are proving this season that the "Big Three" model of team-building is overrated and not the only, or even the best, path to success. They have only one current All-Star on the roster, but they've got so much depth that they're crushing opponents. Tying up $45-$50M in three players kills any opportunity to have great depth. The Blazers should build around the Spurs' model, IMO. I can't think of any contending teams that are going to have the cap space to make LA a max offer and don't see Aldridge bailing from a situation where the team is on the cusp of being a contender to go to another rebuilding situation.

    Screw this premise. I say continue building with the current base and add to the bench this summer. Push as far as possible next season and then look to be opportunistic in the Summer of 2015 when there will be plenty of cap space available to shuffle the roster with a FA signing or a sign-and-trade deal.
     
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    Ding ding.

    Not sure we'd b any good, but that's the name I think
     
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    Duncan, Ginobili, Parker have been a big three for a billion years They are the absolute definition of a big three
     
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    They WERE a big three. Age has changed that and Pop and Buford have done a great job of adjusting the model to something that is sustainable as the stars age. He's also been able to get Ginobili and Duncan to accept being paid well under big three dollars.
     
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    I agree with this. And again I think we can be somewhat patient with obtaining one. But yes someone like Derozan is needed. We can't rely on Damian to be the only one attacking the basket. You never know, maybe Will Barton will continue to improve and be that guy..............
     
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    #1 - Don't really know. But my shopping list would look like this:
    ---LBJ (no draft pick)
    ---Melo (plus draft pick)
    ---DMC (plus draft pick)
    ---CLE #1 pick (plus right to swap picks two years from now, and probably some 2nd rounders or protected 1st rounders)

    #2 - Who cares?

    #3 - I don't get the question. At what point? Isn't the premise already about trading LMA?

    #4 - Depending on what we're getting back I would add any of the following to a package centered around LMA:
    ---CJ
    ---Leonard
    ---Wright
    ---Claver
    ---Freeland
    ---Crabbe
    ---Barton
     
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    The premise is what 3rd star we could add, for question 1
     
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    It would take Wes and Nic minimum starting offer to get Melo. We would need to keep either CJ or Barton to be or starting SG
     
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    I agree. I think our problems are, in descending order:
    #1 - Bench
    #2 - Coaching
    #3 - Our #1 option isn't good enough at being a #1 option.

    It seems a lot of people seem to think that improving problem #1 will be enough to overcome problem #3. Unless Dame takes a HUGE leap and becomes a Championship-level #1 option, I don't think I agree. I think he's a great #2, and I like his ability to take/make the big shots, but I generally don't feel like PGs can be the best player on a Championship team. Of course there are exceptions - the most recent being Parker. But I feel that's more about Pops than it is about Parker. Plus, Parker has always played next to the best pivot in the game.
     

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