Official: you be the GM (what would you do)

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  1. Schilly

    Schilly Well-Known Member

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    Ok been thinking about this

    Signings: re-sign Mo with NonBird rights, 2 years 3rd year TO, Sign Marvin Williams to MLE, Okafor to BAE.
    Trades: See what I can get for a package of Freeland and Wright, add Crabbe if Necessary.
     
  2. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    What in the world is your fascination with Marvin Williams?
     
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  3. Schilly

    Schilly Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't call it fascination. I look at him as being a career starter who really is fringe and should be a 6th man. He was over hyped and failed to meet expectations for where he was drafted, but I look at what he does now not what pick was used to select him. He plays the position of what I think is our biggest need, as I mentioned has been a career starter. He also is right in that MLE range. To me he would be a more reliable consistent backup 3 than Wright and if we go small ball he can play the 4 as well.
     
  4. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Setting sights a tad lower (re: trading into the draft) I think Shabazz Napier would be a decent target.

    He was the leader on that title team, a four-year guy who could step in right away.

    18 PPG 6 RPG 5 APG 2 SPG
    40.5 3PT%
     
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    No.

    More.

    Rookies.

    (unless you're changing the direction of the team)
     
  6. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    I'm all about upgrading the talent.

    The bench could really use a guy like Napier.
     
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    Tester I like your ideas!

    Yes sign and trade I think Deng will be available for one. My concern with Deng is his 3pt %, if we are paying him $10mil a year it needs to be the right fit.

    I don't see any chance Pau takes MLE though. I'd try to do that sign and trade for Pau first or Deng second. Pau could start in place of Rolo he won a title as center of the Lakers. Lots of flexibility, and with his high basketball IQ he really seems like a Stotts player.

    I'd also like to see Rolo and Wes locked up in extensions. I'm not sure if Neil will want to give multi year deals out to those potential bench acquisitios if our starters are in flux. With the salary cap going up in the next two years there will be tons of teams handing out overpaid contracts. I hope we don't get in a bind having to way overpay when we can extend them now.

    Remember when Batum was eligible for an extension and we didn't offer anything over $5 million? That cost the team dearly as we had to pay $12 million the following summer.
     
  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    We need vets man. If we make trades, they need to be for vets. If we sign free agents, they need to be vets.
     
  9. 42N8Bounce

    42N8Bounce Red Hot And Rebuilding

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    Our key assets to deal with this summer are the MLE ($5.3M), BAE ($2.1M), and the non-Bird rights to Mo Williams for a potential sign and trade.

    I see our biggest needs as:
    1. Backup PG
    2. Backup big (C or PF) - upgrade over TRob or Freeland
    3. Add defense wherever we can get it.

    I think we can address 1 & 2 by using the BAE & MLE and sign some combination of:
    1. Livingston, Sessions, Stuckey or Brooks.
    2. Blatch, Hill, Jason Smith, Humphries or Blair.

    The key to a S&T is getting that right fit so it makes sense for both sides. If we're trading Mo, we need to find a team that:
    A. Needs a backup PG
    B. Has limited other options to acquire that PG.
    C. Has another position where they have "excess" players.
    D. Good salary match.

    Charlotte only has Kemba Walker returning at PG. However, they have a ton of CAP space and have a lot of options.

    Looking at Memphis -
    A. They only have Mike Conley at PG. Beno Udrih is a free agent. No other PGs on their roster.
    B. They are expected to be above the Tax level, so they have limited option to add players. They do not have the BAE available (used it last year), and will only have the tax-MLE of $3.3M available.
    C. Looking at their depth chart, they are very thin at PG, a bit thin with Bigs, and they are heavy on Wings. As a matter of fact, they have two SG with Courtney Lee and Tony Allen. Behind that they have Pondexter and can re-sign Mike Miller with his non-Bird rights.
    D. Courtney Lee (starting) is making $5.4M for 2 more years, and Tony Allen is making $4.8M for 3 more years. With Mo’s non-Bird rights, Portland can sign him up to $3.2M. Being below the tax, we can trade and receive back up to 150% of his salary, $4.8M.

    We would need to add a player to our offer to open up a roster spot. Memphis would probably be looking to bring back a Big or Wing that makes around $1-2M to match salaries and balance their roster. That leaves McCollum, Barton, Leonard, Claver, and Crabbe. I’d be good adding any of those players to make the trade work, in this order – Leonard, Claver, Crabbe, McCollum, then Barton.

    Mo Williams S&T to Memphis for Tony Allen.
     
  10. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    If Memphis is above the tax level, they cannot receive a player off a sign-and-trade. http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q23
     
  11. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I bet Deng gets an offer bigger than MLE from the Lakers, and other teams as well.

    He'd have to want to come to the Blazers, and the Blazers would have to acquire him via S&T. Who goes to match his salary?
     
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    Only have to be within 2/3 of the incoming. CJ/MyLe/DW1 combine for 7.5M; that's more than enough to match anything he'll be offered. If he wants to come here, Olshey can make it happen.
     
  13. Denny Crane

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    Cleveland has to want those guys in return. Neil is great, but he can't make them want those guys ;)
     
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    Why wouldn't they want two high-upside recent lottery picks and a $3M expiring contract in exchange for a player they'd otherwise lose for nothing? It's called asset acquisition, and it's what rebuilding franchises do.
     
  15. Natebishop3

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    Deng would be nice, but honestly I think I like Ariza better.

    Either way, if you bring in Deng or Ariza, you probably have to move Matthews to open up a spot in the starting lineup.
     
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    If they let Deng walk, they get to choose how they spend their cap space. Maybe they want to use the space to make an offer to Deshawn Stephenson instead (for example).
     
  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Why would anyone want to make an offer to Deshawn Stevenson?
     
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    After July 1st we can package two future firsts in any deal. So offer them Cj, Leonard, wright and a first. I'm sure they would consider it
     
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    :) lol
     
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    LBJ kryptonite obviously :D
     

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