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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Barfo,

    Merkley's minions accessed the records. They looked to see if there was any likely other source, like the Oregonian.

    What on earth makes you think they'd bury other searches?

    So, what you are writing is pulled straight from your ass. Or find a smoking gun saying ANYONE at all other than Merkley's guy accessed the record before she was smeared with the info.

    My interest in this is the dirty tricks and how the operatives work.

    I think we now have $17T+ reasons to vote for anyone else but those in office now. They're dangerous.
     
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    Now look up who argued it wasn't a big deal.
     
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    My own War on Women?

    "I totally misspoke!!"

    [video=youtube;rZHO1vo762c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZHO1vo762c[/video]
     
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    I'm sure those who like Clinton says no big deal and those who don't like Clinton says big deal.

    But clearly it was a big deal in congress.
     
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    Clinton was accused of rape by Juanita Broaddrick, and he settled a sexual harassment case with Paula Jones.

    What world are we living in where Bill Clinton wasn't given the benefit of the doubt? Linda Tripp, Monica Lewinsky, Gennifer Flowers ... how many women did the Dems smear to cover for the lecherous Bill Clinton? They should have just told the truth.
     
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    My only point is that while democrats tried to sweep it under the table, they were unsuccessful. it wa a big deal.

    Wehby situation doesn't even compare to the dirt on Clinton. But I doubt Wehby is going to get a special prosecutor assigned and charged with anything.

    Wehby has signs of being psycho in relationships, so what . . . as I said before it didn't seem to effect her professional life then, so no big deal. I just take issue with there is nothing there . . . there is something there, jut not relevant in my mind to how she would conduct herself as a senator.

    If some stalking victim wants to hold it against her . . . well I would understand that. But I think most will not consider it.
     
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    From what I've seen, she called the one guy a few times over a 5 day period. That is not stalking. The 5 days is kinda short to make it some sort of obsessive behavior.
     
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    I've been in many relationships, not one police report ever filed against me. How about you, any police reports filed against you? Anyone on this board had multiple police reports filed on them? I don't think it's an issue for most because nothing resulted from them, but fact two ment took the time to file police reports against this doctor says something about her personal life to me.

    We see this thing so differently . . . fact that you think there is only one explanation to "I regret filing a police report" shows we are analyzing this so differently (I am well aware of recanting victims as this is one step removed from even a recanting victim). But at least in the end it doesn't really have an impact of how we think she will conduct herself as a senator so who cares how we get there.
     
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    Both people in these relationships were uber wealthy. They may call the cops a lot for all we know. Or they made a lot of noise and someone else called the cops. The police report is online, I read it. It's incredibly tame.

    Yeah, I do think that given a few weeks to ponder what he did during those 5 days, he came to believe he overreacted. That's what he said.
     
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    I haven't read everything out there. Did he say he overreacted or he regrets it? Has he come out and said what he said in the reports aren't true?

    There you go again, nothing to indicate uber wealthy tend to call the cops on each other more.

    DC, do you not think Miller has an interest in seeing Wehby elected?
     
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    Technically, incorrect (as usual). It was a minion of the democrat party of oregon, which while obviously on the same team as Merkley, does not actually work directly for Merkley.

    They, the Oregonian, looked to see if the Oregonian was a likely source? Does that make sense to you?

    For someone who believes in conspiracy theories as much as you, you are awfully eager to believe whatever anyone says on this topic.
    For the record, I don't believe they'd bury other searches. But I do believe if they saw a name on the list that they couldn't quickly identify, they'd just move on and get the story published.

    If someone publishes it, and I see it, I will be sure to let you know.

    I don't think publicizing public records really amounts to 'dirty tricks'.

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    Ooooohhh.. technically incorrect. The guy is a former Merkley campaign aid.

    Plausible deniability. Technically incorrect. Too funny.

    It was Politico that first published the story. They didn't do a records search. The Oregonian published this story: http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2014/05/monica_wehby_accused_of_stalki.html

    You'll be sure to make up stuff as if it were plausible. Maybe aliens read Miller's mind and planted the idea in her republican opponent's head via telepathy. That sort of thing is as likely as what you are suggesting happened.

    Waiting a month for what they deem an opportune time to smear the opponent is a dirty trick.

    Next?
     
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    http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/05/monica_wehby_stalking_report_f.html

    An employee of the Democratic Party of Oregon was the first person to request the April 2013 police report of timber baron Andrew Miller accusing Republican Senate candidate Monica Wehby of "stalking" him after a break-up.

    Jon Friedman, who listed a Northeast Portland address, requested the report from Portland police on April 17, 2014, documents obtained by The Oregonian through a public records request show. Friedman did not immediately return a message seeking comment Monday.

    Friedman works as a research assistant for the Democratic Party of Oregon, said Jamal Raad, party spokesman. Raad declined to comment further.

    Raad previously worked as a spokesman for Democratic Sen. Jeff Merkley, who is seeking re-election to a second term.

    (but they never talk!)
     
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    I'm a wealthy timber owner and republican in Oregon. I stand to profit greatly if a Republican senator is elected into office. I filed a poilce report against someone who later is running for office as the republican candidate, I am a prominent supported of that person and the police report could potentially harm her chances of getting elected . . . I would regret filing that report because it may hurt her chances to win. Is that so hard to understand.

    I understand your interpretation of "regrets calling the police" . . . and that is one possible explanation. If you don't think there are many reasons people can regret doing things and that the statement is vague, I don't know what to say.

    My god the fact he a prominent supporter and sunk money into her campaign . . . of course he regrets documenting Wehby's actions in the past via a police report.

    In fact Monica has gone on record as regretting saying those things to Linda Tripp . . . must mean nothing happened between her and Clinton. Why else would she regret it?
     
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    He could have backed any other republican. :crazy:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/05/andrew_miller_says_he_regrets.html

    Andrew Miller on Friday said that he regrets calling 911 a year ago to accuse Republican Senate candidate Monica Wehby, his ex-girlfriend, of stalking him and harassing his employees.

    "It's a personal matter," he said Friday. "It probably wasn't one of my better days in life way back when. I didn't really want to spend a lot of time reflecting on it."

    He likened the situation to the adage of not acting when angry.

    "They always say, 'Don't send an angry email until after you let it sit for 24 hours,'" Miller said. "I think sometimes we are prone to act in the moment, and later when you think about it, I kind of wish we could do a do-over on that one."

    Miller said he remains friends with Wehby.

    "I talk to her from time to time," he said. "I have no hard feelings or animosity towards her whatsoever. I voted for her. I wish her well, and I hope she succeeds."
     
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    Denny Crane is a right-wing Republican.

    Oh, was that technically incorrect? Doesn't matter! One doesn't need to be accurate here. Truthiness is good enough.

    So there is a rule in Denny-land that you must release any and all information you have as soon as you have it?

    barfo
     
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    The last couple paragraphs of this article are great.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2014/05/monica_wehby_accused_of_stalki.html

    Len Bergstein, a veteran Portland political and public relations consultant, said the information certainly seemed to be the result of a leak designed to cause political damage to Wehby.

    He said he doubted it would have a major impact on the outcome of the primary, but he said it could well damage her in a fall race against Merkley. He said it hurts her campaign's effort to create a "carefully constructed picture" of the pediatric neurosurgeon, who is a newcomer to politics.
     

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