Shooting at Reynolds High School

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  1. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    Kids need to be taught how to fight. Instead of jacking guns from their parents. I'm not even that far removed from high school and if I had beef with someone, we fought it out. If I thought that person could kick my ass, I punched them first.

    I think zero tolerance has fucked up our youth.
     
  2. Mediocre Man

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    Threads not over yet
     
  3. MarAzul

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    Good post., spot on. I was hunting by the time I was 11, expert marksman by the time I got to boot camp. Most of my company in boot camp were from the city, NY, Philly and Chicago.
    Geez they were good at running their mouth but a sorry lot when it came time to use a weapon. Many would flinch, or tense and jerk a shot off. A man should not enter adulthood in such a deficient state.

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    ....and you probably have a quick trigger.
     
  5. MickZagger

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    BTW, this whole thing hits close to home. My aunt has been the volleyball coach there for over 25 years.
     
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    Who killed the shooter at the school?
     
  9. SlyPokerDog

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    Police have not released the name of the shooter, although a law-enforcement source said he was a former Reynolds student who took a bus to school Tuesday. Witnesses who greeted police at the scene told them that the shooter was wearing a black and red motorcycle helmet, black clothes and what appeared to be a flak jacket, according to police radio traffic.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/i..._school_shooting_de_1.html#incart_maj-story-1
     
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    What the hell was the bus driver thinking?
     
  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    RR7 didn't talk about regulating alcohol. He talked about DUI laws. I was merely pointing out that DUI laws don't serve as much of a deterrent, as people still drive drunk. They are merely a way of (hopefully) removing drunk drivers from behind the wheel after they've been caught. Of course, that asshole up in Washington had something like 7 DUI convictions and was still driving his Italian sports car.

    You're right, owning a gun is a constitutional right. There's a reason why it's a constitutional right, and there's a reason why some people would be willing to go to war over that right.

    But you're wrong about the regulation of guns. There are examples of cities in America that have tried to regulate firearms. Chicago, Washington DC, and the state of California have all tried to regulate firearms. They have banned semi-automatic rifles. They have banned semi-automatic pistols. They have tried to remove firearms from the streets and yet they are still some of the most dangerous places in the country. There is one thing that you can take to the bank, and that's the simple fact that criminals are going to break the law.

    It doesn't matter if you make guns harder to buy because they will find a way to get their hands on them. Many of the shootings were done with stolen firearms. Nobody has been able to explain how regulating guns will actually accomplish anything. All they say is that we have to do something. It doesn't matter what we do, we just have to do something! The house is on fire and some of you are outside trying to put out the fire with a garden hose. It's not going to work. You have to find the root of the problem and put a stop to it. It's a gas fire and you need to turn off the gas. Figure out why these kids are doing what they're doing and start working to prevent further shootings.

    The guns are not causing the shootings. They are the method chosen by the killer. It is the children who have a break from reality that are causing the shootings. That is where we need to focus and that is where we need to put a stop to this kind of thinking.
     
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    That list includes several solo suicides, including the one in Bend, OR.

    It's incredibly dishonest and downright disgusting for the media and anti-gun lobby to group good kids who lost a battle with depression in a chart with a bunch of hateful, evil-as-they-come worthless murderers.

    But the media wants more anti-gun press, so they create more school murders by how they "report" school murders. First off, they never use the words murder or murderer. How's that for hard-hitting factual reporting? They are now always called shootings, and shooters, even if a gun was never the main weapon used.

    Want to stop kids from murdering kids? Quit ignoring their gruesome crimes. Stop giving them a pass by naively blaming an inanimate object that has been on hand for centuries. Call a murderer a murderer. Call a coward a coward. Stop making them into misunderstood folk heroes. Stop encouraging losers to look up to them

    Plaster the little murderers faces on the front page with the word MURDERER across it. Describe their vile acts, the pain and suffering they caused, and the fact that these COWARDLY acts are INEXCUSABLE.
     
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    For me as well. Todd and I were a couple years apart, but friends through other friends. I remember him breaking his neck in football and had to wear a cage on his head. He got it caught in a basketball net dunking one day. Ripped it right out.....worst thing I ever saw at that point.
     
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    I do understand guns can be regulated, my point was it can't be regulated the way alcohol and driving can. If the gov't could have unfettered regulation of guns, I believe they could actually change a lot of this and alcohol and DUII laws are a great example of effective gov't regulation to change society for the better.
     
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    If nothing changed but the govt regulating guns, we'd still have these murders. The murderers would be either using home-made guns, stolen guns, 3d printed guns, OR bombs, knives.


    Nate's right in that we have to get to the root of the issue and stop trying to think its the tools that cause the problem.
     
  16. SheedSoNasty

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    My dad teaches there. Yesterday was a rough one for us especially since he doesn't have a cell phone.
     
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    She probably knows my ex girlfriend. Her and her sister where awesome volleyball players at Reynolds, then Mt Hood CC, and finished at Western Oregon.
     
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    Have they released a motive yet? Was the shooter targeting the kid he killed?
     
  19. jlprk

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    This thread is jumping. Local shootings are more exciting than national shootings.
     
  20. The_Lillard_King

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    I agree that you have to attack this problem from all angles. But the access to guns is a big problem, IMO. I do recognize it's a constitutional right so easy access will always be there in our society.
     

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