Ah, you feel safe. If he does come back with a new handle, what will have changed for you? He didn't annoy me but he did you, aren't things still the same, you are subject to being annoyed, me not so much even with those where I can never get it right. But you want people to disappear, I sort of like to see them justify their take. It will still be the same if he came back as PaPa H.
How would you have handled PapaG? I'm genuinely curious. I know how Maxie would deal with it. His method is to do nothing. He doesn't think that anyone should be edited, suspended or banned under any circumstances. I'm curious what your technique would be.
It's just a slap on the wrist, but hopefully having to change his handle and hide his identity will encourage him to stop attacking people. He can still attack the post, state his opinions, but he will be just some other poster and will have lost his identity. Over time he will build that back up, but hopefully a better version of papag, one who keeps to the forum rules.
Sly often calms me down by just editing my posts, then I begins to feel silly if I go much farther. I thought you had the moment to back out when Sly advised you to let it go. That means back off. I really don't know the mans character but I suspect if you edit out the objectionable section of his post when he gets on a roll, he too will feel silly soon. Your kinda like the local bad boy after he runs his mouth a bit over the top. There has to be blows to save face, no advise can be followed. And that is not true at all, some other person can step in for you and let your adversary save face and back down. The professional Shore Patrol teaches that lesson as soon as you start serving in that role as a temporary addition. Had to learn that lesson fast or be in a position of busting chops way too often. Step 1, followed directly by Step 2, and closely backup by step 3 is too damn simple, and it cost us a good forum participant, perhaps a loss even for those that seem happy with the end result.
Why is it the Mods job to back down again and again if someone breaks the rule, to back up and let him save face, over and over and over. Guess what, the mods do this for free, to help this site that they love run smoothly. If someone continually monopolizes their time breaking the rules, eventually, after many warnings, they get sick of backing down and letting it happen again and again, because as papag has shown repeatedly, he will abuse the situation and the mods again.
That method you described can often work, I agree, but not with PapaG. The more you moderate him, the more angry he will get. He spins himself up to the point where, in some cases, he would actually scream that we should ban him. The best way to moderate PapaG is to ignore him completely, but at some point he's more trouble than he's worth. Trust me, if you were able to see the mod forum you would find that half of the posts in that thread are about how to handle PapaG. It has been endlessly debated. We develop strategies and discuss how to handle posters, but we have exhausted any ideas on what to do with him. I finally had enough. That's why so few people have actually been banned here. Maybe 5 or 6 in the history of our little community.
24 hour suspensions or even 48 hours is usually enough to defuse whatever situation arises permanent bans should only be used for illegal actions like threats of violence, child porn etc.
Well no worry! I saw you say, you would never do the job. Sly has let me save face or saved my face 22 times. Maybe a forgot a few. But then I don't really know the answer to your question, except maybe they want to learn how to do it?
How is that a voice of reason? His posts have been edited a ton for a long time with many warnings and suspensions in between. Clearly he was not feeling silly from his posts and not changing his behavior. This is where nate mentioning you never being in the main forum comes into play. You're trying to speak as a voice of reason without having a clue of what's happened over time. I don't care about his Blazers knowledge, the guy was an asshole that came on frequently with the sole intent of arguing. Had no interest in a true exchange of ideas and would just twist a conversation enough to argue more and more. Fuck him. Good riddance. Great job nate!
This might be true with 99% of posters, but when someone clearly doesn't respond to warnings, and they are consistently damaging the morale of the forum, it's time for them to go. Most arguments on here last a few posts and that's it. When PapaG gets into a feud with someone, that feud spans over multiple threads and he will hold onto that feud for years.
I use to think you were Cup, another of the same over on Oregonlive. I read your post here as I did there. About the same guy.
So.... wait...... was PapaG banned or suspended? Or did he first get suspended, then banned? Quick summary please. I was here draft night just before the suspension. I figured he'd be back by now?
I believe that you and I see this somewhat alike. In my opinion developed from past experience, Sly has the temperament, maturity and lack of ego that allows him to diffuse even the most stubborn, pigheaded and unrelenting personalities (me). I suppose it is not fair of us to expect the same exceptional ism in Nate.
If Papa got banned solely for being a smart ass, I undoubtedly would have been banned a long time ago. I think it was a step beyond "smart ass things".
