The Surprisingly Strong Case for Colonizing Venus

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  1. barfo

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    You can't keep track because you haven't provided any evidence for your conspiracy theory.

    If you think the DOE promised or even recommended funding, please quote the language where they say that. Otherwise, you are just blowing smoke. And yes, smoking does cause lung cancer, no matter what you 'skeptics' have decided to believe.

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  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    There are no tax subsidies going to oil companies, just to green energy ones.
     
  3. Denny Crane

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    When scientists can't get their results published by peer censored publications, there's a conspiracy or collusion involved.
     
  4. MarAzul

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    Ah! these guys believe in Science and science can do! Don't sweat the small shit.
     
  5. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Or, maybe they are just doing bad science.

    I know it's hard to believe, but not everything is a conspiracy. Some things are as they appear.

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  6. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I am seriously impressed and amazed how Barfo and Denny can go from thread to thread and find new shit to argue about.

    It's like they're 2 sides of the same damaged penny.
     
  7. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It's not that hard. He's wrong about everything, so I just have to take the opposite side. Whatever that is, it's guaranteed to be correct.

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  8. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Or certainly you are wrong.

    The researchers who continue acknowledge that the flaws in the original announcement are the main cause of the subject's marginalization, and they complain of a chronic lack of funding[76] and no possibilities of getting their work published in the highest impact journals.[77] University researchers are often unwilling to investigate cold fusion because they would be ridiculed by their colleagues and their professional careers would be at risk.[78] In 1994, David Goodstein, a professor of physics at Caltech, advocated for increased attention from mainstream researchers and described cold fusion as:

    a pariah field, cast out by the scientific establishment. Between cold fusion and respectable science there is virtually no communication at all. Cold fusion papers are almost never published in refereed scientific journals, with the result that those works don't receive the normal critical scrutiny that science requires. On the other hand, because the Cold-Fusioners see themselves as a community under siege, there is little internal criticism. Experiments and theories tend to be accepted at face value, for fear of providing even more fuel for external critics, if anyone outside the group was bothering to listen. In these circumstances, crackpots flourish, making matters worse for those who believe that there is serious science going on here.[30]

    A 1991 review by a cold fusion proponent had calculated "about 600 scientists" were still conducting research.[79] After 1991, cold fusion research only continued in relative obscurity, conducted by groups that had increasing difficulty securing public funding and keeping programs open. These small but committed groups of cold fusion researchers have continued to conduct experiments using Fleischmann and Pons electrolysis set-ups in spite of the rejection by the mainstream community.[11][72] The Boston Globe estimated in 2004 that there were only 100 to 200 researchers working in the field, most suffering damage to their reputation and career.[80] Since the main controversy over Pons and Fleischmann had ended, cold fusion research has been funded by private and small governmental scientific investment funds in the United States, Italy, Japan, and India.

    United States

    Cold fusion apparatus at the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center San Diego (2005)

    U.S. Navy researchers at the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center (SPAWAR) in San Diego have been studying cold fusion since 1989.[71][81] In 2002, they released a two-volume report, "Thermal and nuclear aspects of the Pd/D2O system," with a plea for funding.[82] This and other published papers prompted a 2004 Department of Energy (DOE) review.[71]
     
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    You're on the wrong side of this argument, too.
     
  11. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    For sure.

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  12. barfo

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    Sure, well, if cold fusion works, you should have an easy time of proving it. It's only been 25 years... where's the beef, Denny?

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    "breaks"
     
  14. Denny Crane

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    It doesn't work yet. You're wrong that I said it did.

    The nuclear reaction didn't work either. Until they figured chain reactions.

    I think they will figure out cold fusion. It's a matter of when.
     
  16. barfo

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    Well, ok. So we should put taxpayer money into technologies that don't yet show any promise. Like solar power, right, Denny?

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    Or dig a hole to China. The things you'd spend on are just as pointless.
     
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    They get tax breaks that every company gets. They get to depreciate land and equipment, credit for R&D, get to deduct their expenses.

    You must have some "breaks" in mind. You brought it up.
     
  20. barfo

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    Sure, but I'm a liberal. I'm supposed to be in favor of spending money on pointless trifles. You are supposed to be an anti-government yahoo, and so you are supposed to be against anything that doesn't immediately increase the wealth of the upper class. I don't understand why you want to throw taxpayer money away on cold fusion.

    Why are you in favor of big government, Denny?

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