Thoughts on the summer league so far?

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    CJ has looked pretty good.

    Robinson is still enigmatic, but I think he has improved from last year. Needs to get that free throw shot down.

    Barton is still completely out of control.

    Did Crabbe make the trip? I'm not sure.
     
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    CJ looked great, made me rethink his level tonight. Great to see. Crabbe...Stampede for a couple of years then China.
     
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    Leonar? Leonar? Bueller?
     
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    CJ is playing at half-speed. Still love his potential.

    Barton looks like a future 6th man. Instant offense.

    Crabbe belongs with Cedevita Zagreb, not the Blazers. Yikes.

    What would it take to snag Rudy Gobert from Utah?
     
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    It looks like they are playing good defense, and the stats back the eye-test up:
    NYK: 34.3%
    Houston: 35.9%

    Not a trend after 2 games, but I hope it develops into one!
     
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    cj looks like the best player on the floor, so thats cool
     
  7. Natebishop3

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    Depends on how you define "best."

    Allen Crabbe is clearly the best at concealment. He is a master of disguise. You don't even know he's there.
     
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    as a second round pick, crabbe is chaff blending into the chaff
     
  9. Natebishop3

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    He just has no killer instinct at all, which I find strange for a shooting guard. I expect a guy who's main role on a team is to take shots, to be someone more like Will Barton. That's not Crabbe though. He just seems to hang out. I wasn't particularly impressed with his D League time either. I guess we shouldn't be surprised. For the PAC 12 Player of the Year to fall to the second round, there has to be something wrong.
     
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    Crabbe is worthless huh? What is his deal?
     
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    I wonder if we'll make it out of the 2nd round of the Summer League playoffs?
     
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    Curious but you live in Vegas, why aren't you going to the games?
     
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    Just doesn't seem to have a killer instinct. He only took 4 shots in 21 minutes.
     
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    CJ is playing like a guy that knows what's going to get him on the floor next year. Knock down shots, limit mistakes and improve defensively. Think he has the best shot to see regular rotation minutes out of all these guys after Olshey and Stotts made it clear that if Kaman is healthy, he's going to eat up most of the available backup PF/C minutes.

    Joel- Protects the rim well but still foul prone against quick, talanted PF's and big centers eat him alive. Doesn't give you enough offensively to make up for it.

    Will and TRob- There's no doubt these guys have skills but I'm still seeing to many spazzy moments to feel comfortable with putting them on the floor for extended periods.

    Crabbe- Liked what I saw from him last SL, but his confidence is down and he's floating out there because of it.
     
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    Joel definitely tries hard, but he's just not good enough. It's unfortunate that he can't consistently make a mid-range jumper.
     
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    He started to in the couple months before he got hurt, but has struggled with it since.
     
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    I just don't see him getting any minutes. Rolo averaged about 32 minutes per game last season. Kaman is going to soak up the rest of the 16 minutes. The only way I see Joel playing is if one of LA/Robinson/Rolo/Kaman gets injured. It's nice to have someone like Joel who can step in and play, but it sucks for him. I don't see him playing much next season.
     
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    Agreed. Only chance I see is if the Kaman / Rolo combo doesn't work, which is very possible.
     
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    Eh, I don't foresee any issues. The only real rub could be if Kaman can't stay healthy.
     
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    Our team defense is the best result so far. I'm hoping with less Mo and no dual PG lineups that will carry over to the regular season.

    CJ has looked very good. Yes he's missed a lot of three's but at some point a bunch of those will fall I have no concerns about his shot. When he has Barton or Batum on the floor with him I think he can play some backup PG too and that could help our defense.

    Freeland is a great luxury to have in case of an injury. He doesn't make any mistakes. Yes he is undersized against big centers but even if he does play this coming season its likely spot minutes against other teams backups.

    Thomas Robinson really concerned me out there. He still has terrible decision making. We all see the athleticism but I'm seeing him jack up 20 foot jumpers, cherry picking on defense and turning an easy layup opportunity into a reverse blunder. His shot is getting worse not better. He should never be shooting the ball outside the paint; and that hurts our offensive spacing. If Kaman is healthy I think he might take all of the backup PF minutes. Other times we might go small with Wright playing as a stretch 4. TRob will definitely have chances to earn a role next year but I'm not penciling him in for anything.
     

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