Thoughts on the Death Penalty

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by Further, Jul 24, 2014.

  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,978
    Likes Received:
    10,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    The death penalty is... A penalty.

    Imagine that!
     
  2. riverman

    riverman Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    68,326
    Likes Received:
    67,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    For some of the deranged, horrible criminals out there death is a release, end of suffering. If I want to punish them I give them life with hard labor and no contact with entertainment, etc. That's more of a penalty than an execution. Work them and keep their world only work and sleep. No movie deals, no internet or tv, no sports, just your old bread and water, sledgehammer on rocks sort of punishment.
     
  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,978
    Likes Received:
    10,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    No cruel or unusual punishment.
     
  4. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Indeed, but there are other types of penalties. So the death penalty isn't needed to give people confidence that laws will be enforced.
     
  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,978
    Likes Received:
    10,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    No it isn't. It just happens to be the penalty for the most heinous crimes.

    Any penalty that isn't enforced leaves less reason to respect the Law .
     
  6. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    So we agree; get rid of the death penalty, make it jail time for the most heinous crimes and be sure to enforce it (for confidence/respect/admiration).
     
  7. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,978
    Likes Received:
    10,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    Where the hell do you get that I want to do away with the death penalty?

    When the people see the worst of the worst put to death, they can rest easier that the person will never commit the crime again. And that the Law is protecting them and it works.
     
  8. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Locking them up for life also means they can't kill people. People will know the Law is Protecting them and it Works.
     
  9. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,978
    Likes Received:
    10,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    Unless some bleeding heart liberal decides to give them a furlough.

    And you're not protecting the prison guards or other inmates either.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton
     
  10. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2009
    Messages:
    59,328
    Likes Received:
    5,588
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Cracking fools in the skull
    Location:
    Lancaster, California
    I wish we could just torture them publicly for the rest of their life. Strip them naked and stick sharp objects up their ass. Then let those families that they hurt have weekly skin peeling sessions.
     
  11. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    125,242
    Likes Received:
    145,450
    Trophy Points:
    115
  12. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    12,405
    Likes Received:
    310
    Trophy Points:
    83
    PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — A Washington state woman going through a divorce and custody battle is accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter and severely cutting her teenage daughter at a popular inn on the northern Oregon coast, a crime that has shocked tourists and residents.

    Smith faces charges of aggravated murder, which could lead to the death penalty, and attempted aggravated murder. She was to be arraigned Monday via a video feed from the Clatsop County Jail in Astoria


    If guilty (killing a 2 yr old), would you sentence her to death?
     
  13. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,978
    Likes Received:
    10,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    If she's sane, yes.
     
  14. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    12,405
    Likes Received:
    310
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Does the fact you are willing to kill a 2 yr old automatically make you insane?
     
  15. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    125,242
    Likes Received:
    145,450
    Trophy Points:
    115
    The Clatsop county jail doesn't have her in a ninja turtle suit so she must have passed the jail's psych test. Doesn't prove she's sane but she's not a harm to herself.
     
  16. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,369
    Likes Received:
    25,409
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    No. Could be self defense.

    barfo
     
  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    94,044
    Likes Received:
    57,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Man, I just can't wrap my head around someone harming their child to get back at their ex. What the fuck is wrong with these people?
     
  18. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,007
    Likes Received:
    5,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired Yankee
    Location:
    Beautiful Central Oregon
    A very small percentage of people murder other people.

    Murderers usually keep murdering until they are apprehended.

    Once paroled, many if not most will eventually murder again.

    Those with no possibility for parole often murder other prisoners.

    Executed murderers have never murdered anyone after their execution.

    Pretty effective deterrent!
     
  19. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,007
    Likes Received:
    5,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired Yankee
    Location:
    Beautiful Central Oregon
    Absolutely. She's the most heinous of murderers.
     
  20. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,007
    Likes Received:
    5,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired Yankee
    Location:
    Beautiful Central Oregon
    Not at all. Like most murderers, she's just a very evil person.

    Insane people are actually more likely to hurt themselves than anybody else.
     

Share This Page