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  1. Denny Crane

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    Most were wide open or weakly contested. He made a few that looked like a guy or two was close to him from the start.

    He obviously missed a few shots or his FG% for all the games would be 100% :)

    He didn't dribble much in the highlights. He looked OK on defense when in the paint like a PF.
     
  2. TomBoerwinkle#1

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    I would be more skeptical if he got through hs college summer league as a jump out the gym guy who out athletic-ized the inferior competition. I believe the kid will find ways to catch and shoot with no problems and has upside to bring other skills up under Thibs.

    Yeah its summer league. Grain of salt. But I am ok and think Doug will be a great asset.
     
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    Pretty much irrelevant 'cause he's going to be defending wings when the real games start. I doubt he's playing much PF on the select team and I haven't heard any bad reviews so I suppose no news is good news, right?
     
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    Denny do you think moving up to get Doug was better than keeping our non lotto picks? This surprises me.
     
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    I haven't seen him play in real NBA games.

    The scouting reports before the draft do not match the hype I'm seeing now.

    He is going to play a position he's never played before against bigger and faster players than he's seen before.

    I hope he's ROY and MVP and a 2nd unicorn for the team. That said, the price we paid to move up to get him was steep.

    I was expecting us to take Gary Harris and Rodney Hood with the picks.
     
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    Well, it's always easiest to make your call after all the data is in.

    Would it be fair to put you down for preferring that the Bulls had taken Harris and Hood rather than McDermott?
     
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    I'd prefer they play a lot of minutes, but Thibs doesn't play rookies like that.

    Those two fit our needs. McBuckets fills the shooter/scorer need but I'm not convinced he will end up being worth the two. Your answer.

    If the pre draft scouting reports are right, McBuckets may prove to be one dimensional.

    I don't think McBuckets is another Tyrus kind of bad pick.

    Realize Harris and our own Snell outscored McBuckets in summer league, if it matters much.
     
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    OK, I know you didn't actually say it, but I'm putting you down as preferring Harris and Hood.

    For me, the Bulls did the right thing if:

    - McDermott is a rotation player in his rookie season (15+mpg) and

    - McDermott scores 15+ points per 36 minutes

    I'm not putting anything in there about defense because, if McDermott's a true defensive liability, he won't be part of the regular rotation (and won't be a Bull for long).
     
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    Harris and Hood might each do those things. It's not a difficult feat.
     
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    For me, it's impossible to judge a draft for at least 2-3 years.

    Top of my head, MarShon Brooks outplayed the hell out of Jimmy Butler when they were rookies... now Jimmy is All-Defense, and Brooks is signing in Europe.
     
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    The time for this comment is IF McDermott does it over the course of a season. If McDermott doesn't accomplish this, then you win without even putting Harris and Hood in the ring.
     
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    I don't win, I lose. Ya know?
     
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    I don't expect ROY, MVP or unicorn 2.0. Hope we didn't miss out on that by passing on your picks.
     
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    Oh yeah, I forgot. ;)
     
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    I think it was a mistake if he's Dunleavy Jr. 2.0.
     
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    For me, it's impossible to judge a draft until all the players from it are dead. Some people just wait until players retire, but since players can make comebacks, I prefer to wait to death.

    This my way of saying, I hate it when people say things like you should wait three years. Why? You're going to post here during the upcoming season, and not wait until after a champion is crowned to say anything, right? Seems to me like it's better just to call things how you see them and be wrong every once (or more than that) in a while.
     
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    I never said anyone should wait 2-3 years to give their opinion, I've already made mine quite clear.

    I was very impressed with McDoug during SL, and I think he's going to be a perfect fit here. I think he's going to have a much better career than either Harris or Hood. But just because McDermott has a better rookie year, doesn't mean it was the correct pick long-term. Hence, my Butler vs Brooks comparison.

    After their rookie years, the vast majority of Bulls fans I read thought Brooks was by far the better player. If you want to make that comparison this season, you'll have to subscribe to EuroLeaguePass, because Brooks is out of the NBA while Jimmy is a starter on a serious contender.

    I'm also sticking with my Snell over Dieng opinion as well, even though Dieng had a better rookie year numbers-wise, especially in the last month or two of the season when he started the last 15 games and put up 12/12 in 32 minutes.
     
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    Ok. Do you think that is likely the case? I don't.
     
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    That's the pre-draft book on him. He's tall, and a tweener. Too small to play PF, too slow to play SF. In Dunleavy's case, it was too slow to play either SG or SF.

    Dunleavy was pretty good for a handful of years. He was also a high draft pick (#3, I believe).
     

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