What if I told you no one is going to hell?

If you told us that I'd be worried, considering what all else you're wrong about.

 

I agree there will be judgement, but I believe the judgement is not eternal damnation. I have cited the bible references that support my belief. The way I've interpreted it.

I think the judgement is a cleansing before man can see the Kingdom of God.

"Mark 9:48-49
48 Where 'Their worm does not die And the fire is not quenched.' 49 For everyone will be seasoned with fire, every sacrifice will be seasoned with salt."

This is where I interpret that judgement will be made and the fire will burn away the ungodly, leaving the perfect creation to enter into Heaven.

 

"1 Corinthians 15:22-23b
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order."

The "each one in his own order" part is this judgement you speak of, but the judgement is going through the cleansing process of the Lake of Fire.

 

Wrong about what?

 

You shouldn't take this type of statement literally. However it is stated, noting the inconsistent morality of God's actions in the Bible essentially just reduces to an argument that God doesn't exist.

Presumably if for other reasons most atheists came to believe God DID exist, they would at least be open to some sort of justification that they don't currently perceive for multiple genocides etc. in the OT.

 

Ptld, you believe in the trinity right?

 

Mags..I have tried to avoid religious debate, I just want to point out that the very example that you use defeats your argument. The key phrase is " who soever believes". That would in itself exclude those that do not.

Sorry, my friend, I cant agree with your re interpretation.

 

I respect your opinion completely. But I would respond "when everyone comes before God, they will believe"

Also, the second death and rebirth through the Lake of fire will be the judgement and cleanse.

 

I will explain later. I have my contact in Mexico here to pick up product

 

Yeah..I understand the argument..I as well believe that those who do not accept Christ will gain the knowledge of the truth when they stand before God. But I have not read anything that would lead me to believe that God is ta that time going to say "Just Kidding, come on in".

We have free will, we can choose to follow or not, and most have an understanding of the consequences. I dont pretend to understand the nature of God, of of Hell, but tend to think of it as has been described as the absence of Gods love.

The concept that this is where we experience "Heaven" or "Hell" is an interesting one..I do believe that without my faith, and the peace I receive, life could be considered a type of hell. But I tend to believe that this sate of lacking or receiving Gods favor will extend beyond this life.

 

Hahahaha Just an aside, I read this line and suddenly The Stones, You Cant Always Get What You Want, came to mind...lol

 

Well, here comes another, wading in over his head. I think the scripture is a little tight where every person must walk the Roman Road and pass the test so that Jesus would not say, I never knew you. There is much good with the teachings of Christianity and impact on the world as a whole is good, but these requirements are too tight. I can not believe God requires every man of good will to squeeze through these test that would exclude every Buddhist, every Hindu, and every Jew with a prior covenant with God. I expect we are missing something, it is illogical to be that tight.

 

It's more of a psychological analysis. Point is they are reacting to the actions ascribed to God in the OT based on their moral perceptions, not actually reacting to a God that they think exists or even could exist.

It's the same as someone saying I have no interest in serving Joffrey Baratheon as portrayed in GoT.

 

Yeah, well I hear the Pope might not see it your way. I think he decided the Jew do have a valid prior covenant with God and maybe they won't have to walk the Roman road.
I may watch and find a way to sneak in the back way. Foolishness or not, there is always hope.