...3 part question about Cashman and the GM job

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'59 says: "...yeah, the same Billy Bean who perennially has one of the lowest payrolls in MLB".
(post#18)
(Can't blame him, he thought he played the winning card, lol)


blg trumped his card with THIS:

"his (Beane) highest payroll is going to have the worst record and possibly not make the playoffs. jeez...I thought it would be so easy for a genius if he could increase his payroll by what...(help me out)...32%?" (post#20)
2012 = 94-68 made playoffs. Payroll = 52.8M
2013 = 96-66 made playoffs. Payroll = 61.9M
2014 = 81-66......................Payroll = 82.3M

'59, how about some more stamping of your feet and sticking your tongue out?
C'mon, a nice big juicy picture saying nasty things about me.
Translation--> I can't bamboozle this guy. lmao

 

...consistent and classic self ownage. And what's really sad is that you actually believe the inane drivel you type. Even when presented with common sense and facts, you act as if you won some sort of victory.

...like I cited before, discussing Baseball with you "is like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, shits all over the board, then struts around like it won the game."

 

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What the heck are you talking about? Inane drivel? sad?
Excuse me, not all opinions march to the same drummer and you seem to overlook, or conveniently ignore a few facts and sometimes have questionable perspective.
So THERE! Take it or leave it........or maybe you prefer to speak for a couple of your annointed board allies. lol

Billy Beane doesn't earn extra points with me for his low payrolls -
Since 2000, his teams have won a grand total of ONE playoff series.
ONE


You did it again - you keep criticizing, dismissing and discounting my comments, points of view and opinions and when I respond to your delusions of superiority, all you have left is name calling. But I have to admit, you are entertaining.


Oh m'gosh - lets all pray at the feet of Billy Beane.

rotflmao

 

Beane deviated from his own philosophy, and I bet it bites him in the ass....

what do they say in Vegas? Never bet the house, or put all your chips on one hand of cards?

I'd say Beane has done just that, put his entire chips on one horse of a Team, by throwing his own theory out the window. I do hope he loses his ass, as the Halos have been in process of doing just that, (handing Billy his ass back)....

Hopefully the A's will fire him, (I honestly never see that happening), then perhaps, the Yanx can pull him off of Skid Row for GM's, and re-rehabilitate him, re-program him, brief him on the Yankee Way, the same way, all Great Yankee GM's worked to, prior to King George's demise, and replace Cash-hole...

He'd be a vast improvement over Cash-hole, yet, he'd have to keep his harness on, to reel him in on occassion, when he gets a wild hair up his ass.....

He never should of let go of his best offensive weapon, and defensive OF'er too, with the snipers arm.

Sure Cespedes B'Avg, and other stats, may not reveal as much. BUT, when you look at his splits with RISP, Yoenis became a beast with a bat, hitting RBI's always when it counted most. As I said, his B'Avg., was less than stellar, yet he rarely left men on base.....just saying, IMO, Beane blew himself up with greedy ignorance...! Yeppers...!

 

... lol...yes, "inane drivel" pretty much sums it up.

...logic and facts obviously don't matter in your world, and so name calling works best with you because it's the only thing you can understand. You've proven that on a daily basis.

...and for your information, it's not just my opinion, nor just the opinion of my "board allies", (whatever the hell that is)...Billy Beane is widely regarded as one of the best, if not the best GM in the game.

 

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Well, okay. Fair enough.
I never said He was a bad GM. But lets not get silly by saying the only thing I understand is name calling.

One more thing.........

..............how about another great big ridiculous picture? But lay off the kittens.
lol

 

...then WTF is your argument?

...1. Totus said that Beane would be a great replacement for Cashman.

...2. EVERY one of your replies downplayed Beane's ability.

...3. Now, after being called on it, you backtrack by saying "I never said He was a bad GM."



...again, did you even have a point?...or were you once again simply posting only for the sake of posting?







...per your request;

 

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Not back tracking at all- obviously I wasn't enamored with the hint of Beane (if he were available) being some kind of obvious first choice top shelf replacement for Yankee GM if Cashman wasn't brought back. That's all- I just don't feel as if Beane would be such a clear cut fit/success GMing for the Yankees.

And just so you don't think I'm nuts, I felt the need to remind you that I NEVER DID say he was a BAD GM.....I just don't prefer him if he were available.


......and....after all I tried to do for those fukng kittens, this is how they treat me? Little basterds.

 

My view of Billy Beane is this, I really don't know of any other GM who gets more for the buck then he does. He's proof that you don't have to spend 150-200M to put a winning product on the field.

 

...deny it all you want, but yes, you DID backtrack, like you're prone to do. You make inane statements, and when called on it you you vainly either change the subject or interject irrelevant justifications.
...your comments about Beane were derogatory, period. And you have yet to offer your suggestion or preference of a viable and/or available GM replacement. You ripped up totus' offering but produced nothing of your own...spiffy.

 

...and he's been doing it for years. All the while with one of the lowest payrolls year after year.

...this pretty much sums it up...long article but a good read;


http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/oak/team/executive_bio.jsp?loc=beane

"Under his watch, the A's have compiled a 1396-1194 (.539) record over the last 16 seasons, which is the third-best record in the American League and fifth best in all of baseball during that time frame. The A's have six American League West titles (2000; 2002-03; 2006; 2012-13) and secured one AL Wild Card spot (2001) during that span. His teams have posted 90 or more wins in eight of the last 14 years. The A's seven postseason appearances since the 2000 season are tied for fourth most among all Major League teams, trailing only New York-AL (12), St. Louis (10) and Atlanta (9)."

 

...deny it all you want, but yes, you DID backtrack, like you're prone to do. You make inane statements, and when called on it you you vainly either change the subject or interject irrelevant justifications.
...your comments about Beane were derogatory, period. And you have yet to offer your suggestion or preference of a viable and/or available GM replacement. You ripped up totus' offering but produced nothing of your own...spiffy.


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What the heck is wrong with you? I'm beginning to think you really are delusional. I'm not backtracking at all....NOT IN THE LEAST......I thought I've already made my point. Billy Beane would NOT be my first choice IF HE WERE AVAILABLE and if CASHMAN wasn't retained.

His teams have won ONE ----- ONE------ONE playoff series since 2000.

AND YES ---- if you want that to say it was derogatory - BE MY GUEST.

AND NO ---- I don't have to submit a viable replacement...do you know why????......because I was commenting on the possible choice of BILLY BEANE.

IS THIS..... C...L...E....A...R?

YOU DOPE! <--- and this is case where a juicy, accurate name is needed..... YOU DOPE!

Seriously '59....you're beginning to "sound' like some foolish old man-- set in his ways who calls anyone who disagrees with him,... or doesn't quite conform the way you see fit..... nasty names.


READ MY LIPS ---> I DON'T GIVE A FLYING SHIT ABOUT BILLY BEANES' regular season W-L record as a GM.




All together now.....how many playoffs has his "successful" LOW BUDGET teams won since 2000.



READY SET GO -----------------> ONE

 

Hey guys, for the record, I did interject Beane into the discussion. And not because I think he is the be all to end all, but that I believe the Steinbrenner's likely do believe that hype. As for how anyone can perform as GM of the Yanks, we need to remember that anyone in that position has essentially lost significant bargaining power because other franchises and agents know the ownership's track record.

When was the last period of Yankee greatness....a muzzled owner and baseball minded folks in charge. Does anyone think the Yankee GM has the kind of free reign other top Game have?

While we're at this....anyone care to put up a list of top 5 GMs?

Beane, A's
Dobrowski, Tigers
Cherington, Sux
Sabean, Giants
Friedman, Rays

But I could see Duquette (Orioles), Rizzo (Nationals), or Mozeliak (Cards) on this list.

Cashman and Coletti maybe in the top 15.

 

...lmao...^^^ again, classic self-mutilation. This some of the funniest shit I've ever seen. You focus on only one stat as the basis of your argument and you're blind to everything else. You said he wouldn't be your pick but you have no idea who would be....again, you're lame argument is not compelling at all. As usual, you stand on an island of your own, and insist you're right, even when everyone and everything else says otherwise...why do you keep doing this to yourself?...are you also into skin grafts and root canals.


...you're basically saying "Hey, I don't care about pertinent facts or about what the general consensus is".

 

...pretty solid list...and I may be wrong but I think Beane is the longest tenured.

 

Actually its Brian Sabean of the Giants (1996) Beane has been the A's GM since (1997)

 

...close enough.

 

Beane 10/17/97
Sabean 9/30/96

Didn't realize this.....

Sabean began his involvement in Major League Baseball as a scout, and previously worked in the New York Yankees organization. With the Yankees, he drafted or signed as amateurs the likes of Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, J. T. Snow, Jorge Posada and Andy Pettitte.

 

That's a pretty good resume. And he's continued that good eye for talent with the Giants.